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16738 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 10:07 AM
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Replying to: dtownfb (Nov 13, 2008 5:14 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 13, 2008 7:48 am) Unfortunately thats going to happen and or has a more than reasonable chance of occurring. Didn't Circuit City get rid of their older (better paid employees) and replace them with cheaper new hires? If so, that tactic didn't save them from their present condition and no one can blame a UAW/union workforce for Circuit City's woes.
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 13, 2008 6:48 pm) That proves nothing because the auto union will go away soon...or at least be a lame duck organization. Regards, OW
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 13, 2008 8:05 am) Glad you asked. http://www.nlcnet.org/article.php?id=562#Wages%20at%20the%20Toyota%20Plant |
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Replying to: kipk (Nov 11, 2008 7:15 am) " More and more these companies, unions, and employees are going to find the entitlement, they once had, is gone. Hopefully the company will still be there to pick up the pieces. " I find myself in the extremely odd position, checking for sun spots or haley's comet oragreeing with rocky, g and kip simultaneously. Sensory overload would be an understatement. rocky : No we don't want the Chinese to be our overlords. Childrens's toys, dog food, baby food, pyjamas and toothpaste is proof enough of how much they value human life over 1/2 of a cent. g: the UAW must die. Given an Obama administration and a Democratic Congress I'm not sure how that happens but happen it must. ( yoda speak) . Even if given bailout, make it a loan and remove the stigma, and they produce fuel efficient cars that people want to buy, then they are still uncompetetive. The UAW may have had a place earlier in this century, now they are just carrion. Kip : a well balanced approach.This is the non recession , recession. In January I saw IBM annouce they were going to buy back 15b of their stock. Odd recession that. The next two quarters had positive gnp despite proclamations that a resession had been declared in early Jan'08. Ultimately the financials win with I'm in a recession so therefore you need to be in a recession too. Kudos to your rational we are all part of the company vs. the Union vs Them mentality. Don't throw your proxies away. Now more than ever be the gadfly. Vote against every hr overpaid member of a compenstaion comittee. As the Who wrote : we're not going to take it "
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 13, 2008 7:12 pm) Toyota’s Supply Chain Riddled with Sweatshop Abuse “It was like prison.” -Toyota Parts Worker The workers are allowed one, or two, or at the very most, three days off a month. All overtime is mandatory. Routinely, the workers are at the factory 97 hours a week, but it was not uncommon to work even longer. For the last week of October 2007, the worker we interviewed had been obligated to work seven days, most often 16 ½ hours, from 8:30 a.m. to 1:00 a.m., putting in a 108 hour week. When we questioned him on this, he said “Yes, it is impossible, but we did it. Everyone was exhausted but we couldn’t do anything to change the situation. It was like prison.” He worked at a large metal stamping machine, stamping out cross member bars (which are used as engine support) with a mandatory production goal of completing 1,300 cross bars per hour, or one every three seconds! The work was relentless, exhausting, numbing and dangerous. In a 15 hour shift, he would complete 19,500 operations. So much for pointing fingers and saying how great the workers in Japan have it. UAW members are spoiled and are killing the golden goose they work for. |
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wow, that story is really telling, isn't it? I have heard of Japanese workers killing themselves because they just plain worked too hard. They ground theirselves right in to the ground and then committed suicide because they still didn't feel good about their work! It's nuts! Yeah, I'm thinking of the UAW "jobs bank", the Starbuck's coffee and raspberry jelly donuts. I'd be lying to you if I told you that work at Boeing never included relaxing and fun Starbuck's and jelly donuts time periods. Of course it did. What made it all too real in the end (for iluv) were the grey-suited dorks who decided that they should single-handedly play heroes and lay off 40,000+ people, just because they had the power to do so. Morons.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 13, 2008 9:04 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 13, 2008 8:54 pm) Gary you do understand what supply chain means? If your going to read it, read it right and entirely. Japan does use temp workers and suppliers. These aren't the natives. I saw the way they treat non-Japanese workers as oppose to their own kind/family. Your failing to see their culture and or seeing their culture from an American prospective. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 13, 2008 8:54 pm) The golden goose is constipated, having trouble pooping out gold, and its vital signs are rapidly deteriorating!
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