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"Geeze, the way things are going, a Wal~Mart job is going to look prestigious! What will become of all these people at the bottom of the jobs ladder? Are they simply going to fall off into oblivion? Desperate people do desperate things. Look for a huge upswing in violent street crime, alcoholism, drug abuse, homicide, and suicide. " Save a little panic for when thing get terribly worse why don't ya. Europe's been at 10% unemployment for years. Our standards are high and ya'll act like its the end of the world. 6.5% UE sucks for those folks but the best we ever see is around 4% (considering that at any time 4% of us are changing jobs/careers/family development). It's hard to be an undereducated worker in these times. I guess that's why my mom always said college will not be a choice like it was for her. I pray for these folks that struggle to survive but they live in the best country in the world. Don't forget that this economy completey propered after the 1970's-1980's manufacturing decline where we restructured to become leaders in the information age with technological advancement, high tech job creation, and became the most productive workforce in the world. Maybe we should fund the space programs some more and so we can develop the next teflon, velcro, personal computer and thousands of other things. Maybe we need another cold war? god help us. These are smart creative people even if Rocky doesn't want them to work for 14 bucks an hour and would have them bussing tables.
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 13, 2008 8:18 am) I remember that. Look for the Union Label.
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| Wanna talk about unions: Try and get a event planned in the Philly Convention Center. Wanna build out your office space in center city. It's cost 40% more than non union job of equal quality. And they WILL find out about your non union contractor and they will then picket you. We actaully had the gall to try and hire a non union builder for our space and by the end of the first week the contractor wouldn't do the job. Good thing, the union got to someone and we had to change the GC before he even had a change to quit. It's legalized strongarming AKA rackateering. | |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 13, 2008 8:30 am) We all like the Rock. Let's just pretend and see if and how he would wear a different hat for a day or two. |
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Replying to: sixfive (Nov 13, 2008 8:31 am) There is another cold war right now. It really never died. The Soviets won, just as they were the largest victor of WW2, no matter what our propaganda textbooks claim. Maybe the military-industrial complex can spawn a new wave of prosperity...just hope it is for those on this continent, and not for sweatshop workers elsewhere. |
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Replying to: sixfive (Nov 13, 2008 8:31 am) My nephew graduated from college in Seattle. He was going to teach school. He bussed tables to help with his college expenses. When he graduated the restaurant he was working at offered him a bar tending job. He makes more than he would teaching school. He is getting ready to start post graduate work next year. Philosophy was his major. A great education for a bar tender. There are a lot of good jobs for those that seek them out and are not locked into a certain mindset. |
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| O and when the new office tower was built, they were using flushless urinals in the design. Well the unions decided that comcast should use those urinals but never without 40 stories of backup water oriented uruinal pluming just in case they should someday need to flush anyway. O and the entire city can't install the awful flusheless systems for the next 10 years for fear the union would have no one to muscle a 40% premium from. | |
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"The Soviets won, just as they were the largest victor of WW2, no matter what our propaganda textbooks claim. " They will be back thats for sure, but I think we all won back when the wall came down in that now the tensions that developed the nuclear arms race and fear of communism as a viable sustainable ideaology are seen for what they reallt are. My god we wander... |
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 13, 2008 6:40 am) I would agree about sticking together. Some years ago, I was represented by a union (not Teamsters) at a company. They struck, and I stayed out and did picket duty outside the plant at one of two entrances. During my assigned times in the afternoons, every truck that came to entrance to make delivery or pickup just turned around. Some of the truck drivers did talk to us and ask about the strike. As soon as we gave them some info, they turned the truck around and left. They honoroed a picket line of a different union than their own. Just reporting this experience and not pro or con on the practice. You don't need a union to make safety, process, method or any kind of improvements. Companies that empower employees to make changes and suggest improvements who then receive recognition and proper compensation employ a superior business model. On belonging, that can be accomplished when employees feel they are a part of a team, whether their own immediate work group, specifice project teams, cross functional teams, etc as well as the overall company team. Actually, unions probably stifle ideas on improvements that would eliminate entire or parts of employee positions if adopted. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 13, 2008 8:34 am) |
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