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Re: WOW [tlong] by rockylee
Nov 12, 2008 (11:53 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 12, 2008 5:36 pm)

I ask you this...How is Kia, able to pay that much and still make a profit on those tinaments ??? They are VCR's on wheels still despite the major improvements. Hyundai, however makes a quality automobile !!! Marsha7, would be very proud if he was still around to see those wages and benefits and would be railing me to move to Georgia !!! Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!
 
On a positive note though I have a 2nd interview tomorrow 12-7 EST. for a entry-level management job for a major company !!! I'm not getting my hopes up too high though !!! I had a interviewand test yesterday (tuesday) and am playing the waiting game with that one.
 
-Rocky
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Re: [dallasdude1] by rockylee
Nov 12, 2008 (11:57 pm)
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Nov 12, 2008 5:47 pm)

dallasdude1, I wished more Texans, thought like you pal !!!
 
-Rocky
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Re: No bailout without addressing the UAW [rockylee] by tlong
Nov 13, 2008 (12:29 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 12, 2008 10:08 pm)

Kia, is too cheap to offer a retiree healthcare package.
 
Very few companies in this country offer retiree health packages. Perhaps you have a silver spoon in your mouth?
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Re: WOW [rockylee] by tlong
Nov 13, 2008 (12:36 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 12, 2008 11:53 pm)

I ask you this...How is Kia, able to pay that much and still make a profit on those tinaments ???
 
They don't have the huge bloated cost structure of GM. They also don't have 8 divisions and they don't rebadge the same CUV under four nameplates!
 
I have a 2nd interview tomorrow 12-7 EST. for a entry-level management job for a major company !!!
 
Seriously, good luck! If you can land that job in this economy it is a major accomplishment!
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rockford file... by iluvmysephia1
Nov 13, 2008 (2:01 am)
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apparently you haven't been reading your automotive news very much, at least concerning Kia. They have improved their quality immensely in the past 7 years and now are 12th in initial quality. Yes, that puts them above several automakers in quality.
 
To say they are VCR's on wheels is putting your head in the sand. They are state-of-the-art and have been for years, bud. Pull your head out and smell the lower-priced gasoline, rockford.
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Re: rockford file... [iluvmysephia1] by 62vetteefp
Nov 13, 2008 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 13, 2008 2:01 am)

"They have improved their quality immensely in the past 7 years and now are 12th in initial quality. Yes, that puts them above several automakers in quality. "
 
Actually 18th but it is quite impressive and just below average.
 
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2008063
 
For long term reliability they are 35th (3rd from last). But it does look like their latest models are doing much better. Great improvements.
 
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2008115
 
Of course then again all the makes are pretty much about the same for quality today. The best is about 1.5 problems per car and the average is about 2.
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Re: No bailout without addressing the UAW [tlong] by rockylee
Nov 13, 2008 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 13, 2008 12:29 am)

Well I think that is one benefit most folks had back in the day that we've lost due to greedy insurance and pharmaceutical companies !!!! We need to get back to the days of employer paid healthcare and our government needs to make the plans affordable "not for profit" for employers so we can get people off of medicare !!! If we don't do employer paid then we need national healthcare like most other 1st world countries !!! It's not having a silver spoon in my mouth but I like many americans believe healthcare should be a right along with educating folks on ways to be healthy !!! I been smoke/dip free for going on 3 months with the aid of nicotine lozenges and am exercising once again !!!
 
-Rocky
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Re: No bailout without addressing the UAW [cooterbfd] by lemko
Nov 13, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 12, 2008 4:18 pm)

But why are they required to partner up with a Chinese auto mfr???
 
Maybe this was a smart thing on behalf of the Chinese and maybe we should've done it too. The Chinese probably saw the foreign manufacturers coming in and killing off the native manufacturers. In order to prevent this from happening, they enacted a rule that a foreign maker must partner up with a native one. Maybe we should have GM-Toyota or Ford-Honda or Chrysler-Nissan here?
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Re: No bailout without addressing the UAW [rockylee] by gagrice
Nov 13, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 12, 2008 11:26 pm)

January 20th 2009 you will see positive change !!!
 
You will see change. It WILL NOT be positive. Wall street has already shown they have NO confidence in Obama as President. This is the WORST post election market downturn in US history. You think it is bad now. When those providing the jobs feel it is better to get out while the getting is good, you will see some serious unemployment. The current 6.5% is as good as it was through most of the 1990s.
 
Why would Honda want to stay in business with the UAW? It does not take a rocket scientist to see what restrictive Union rules have done to what used to be the greatest company in the World. WSJ I believe reported that GM has about 12,000 workers on full pay DOING NOTHING. Why are UAW workers any better than those that get a regular unemployment check? You make reference to it all the time. You think UAW workers are something special, a cut above the rest of US. I got news for you. They are no better than a guy in a hut in Africa. They just were lucky being born with a Silver UAW spoon in their mouth. The UAW members had better wake up and smell the coffee. Their days are numbered if they do not get competitive with the rest of the World. And your constant denigrating of people from other countries and parts of the USA does not endear the UAW to those of US that know the truth. The truth is an entry level assembler in the UAW is no better than one in a non union plant in TX, Alabama or China. And when Pelosi and Obama give 12 million illegal immigrants citizenship next year you will see them flocking to those entry level UAW jobs like flies on a burger. And if the Obama Pelosi plan for the illegals is anything like the Democrats treatment of the Cuban refugees in the 1960s, they WILL be given first shot at those jobs in the UAW. If it is still in existence. By the time the flood of newly made citizen workers ends you will think a job as a Walmart greeter is wonderful.

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