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Replying to: marsha7 (Aug 13, 2008 6:02 pm) Slowly, surely every industry will have the same issue. And not only is it the wages but also the legacy cost. If a company (Levis/GM/Boeing/whatever) has been around 50 years then they will have lots of retirees with pensions and health care. A new guy shows up on the block and they have none of that legacy cost. The new company pays less/fewer benis and the established company has to do something to compete. Levis hung on, as did GM, but they both finally had to start going overseas to compete. 5 years ago Bo Andersson told the GM suppliers(primarily US) they had to start providing parts from overseas to compete because they were going to world wide purchasing and vehicle development. Before that almost all parts were US built. i.e. the Epsilon II's will be sourced from Germany and will be looking for suppliers who will supply wherever the Epsilons (US, Germany, China, etc.) are built. So there were no local (US) suppliers that had a leg up because they were local to the purchasing dept or US plants. Parts would have to be supplied from whoever had the total lowest cost (part, shipping, quality, etc.). So a lot of suppliers to GM now have plants overseas (Delphi, etc). Of course these sources to GM are pretty much the same as waht all the other OEMS use. |
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Replying to: tedebear (Aug 13, 2008 8:28 pm) |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Aug 13, 2008 6:09 pm) Senator Obama is good when he stays on script. Not so much when he has to deviate from the script. Senator McCain is the opposite. On script, he is boring. Get him off script, and he is much better and more passionate. Why do you think Senator McCain is so eager for those town hall meetings, and Senator Obama is resisting them? dallasdude: Might I remind you that Obama is a professor at the University of Chicago (Americas number one MBA school with countless Nobel prize professors) and is light years ahead of the status quo and or anything the entire GOP has to offer in intellect. In the real world, degrees count for less than real-world experience. So far, I'm seeing an old-school Chicago politician who is attracting attention because of his racial background, relative youth and good looks. Get past the surface and look at his platform, and he's about as "new" and exciting as a 2008 Impala is compared to a 2000 Impala. Unless you consider higher taxes, more social programs and bailouts for companies that customers are rejecting with their hard-earned dollars to be "new" and exciting. Considering our history over the last 50 or so years, I sure don't.
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Aug 13, 2008 6:48 pm) They use those programs because the eligibility requirements have been steadily adjusted UPWARDS over the years. I see this all the time in my job. Recently, Governor Rendell attempted to introduce a program for low-cost health insurance that would have been available to families making almost $80,000 per year. Even in the Philadelphia region (the state's highest cost region), that is still a good income for a family of four. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Aug 13, 2008 6:32 pm) Nixon was Dwight Eisenhower's vice president. His daughter, Julie, married Dwight Eisenhower's grandson. They are still married today, and live in suburban Philadelphia, if I recall correctly. I recall that Dwight Eisenhower did endorse him for president in 1960, although Eisenhower really wasn't all that fond of him. |
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 14, 2008 11:37 am) Any UAW interest or are we done in here (again)? |
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Transfer rights for IUE/CWA union at Moraine plant I'm always on topic so I'll get it going again.  The local Moraine truck plant likely to be closing has stalled on contract talks with workers. They want rights to transfer to UAW plants as the truck plant slows down over the next two years
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I was brought up under sociolism and came to the states just over 20 years ago. What is your opinion on the Swedish system of government? We have very strong UAW members here that think the Swedish system is superior to the USA.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 14, 2008 5:09 pm) |
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