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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 12, 2008 2:14 pm) Gagrice, I respect your point of view !!! I don't believe Obama, is going to fix everything wrong with this country but I however believe because he is from Chicago, he will have a greater understanding of how working class people live and work. What experience does Senator McCain, have besides being a P.O.W. one of the few things I respect about him ??? The fact that we already know what to expect from McCain, well scares the hell out of me !!! I'm not blaming Bush, for the big 3's collapse or the UAW's decline in membership but the guy did not take action to address these issues. If anything the pseudo-capitalist, Bush Jr. made the problems worst by allowing his big oil buddies to gouge us at the pumps for 8 years which has lead to the big 3 bleeding red ink.  Our best bet is to learn to live with it. Congress would have to change it. There was NO legislation in the 110th addressing ANY issue with NAFTA that I could find. Obama could have offered legislation to rescind NAFTA as a Senator. What makes you think he would do anything as President? There is to many pseudo-capitalist in both party's to change it and you know damn well Bush, would veto it thus what is the point of wasting time by drawing up such a bill ??? You seem to be against the War in Iraq. How many UAW jobs do you think are directly tied to supplying that war effort? I would bet the Big 3 have some pretty lucrative contracts tied to the war effort. Yeah, gagrice I don't believe in starting wars over oil a out-dated fuel source !!! I was never against the war in Afghanistan, and originally supported the war in Iraq, until the truth finally started to come out. You ask how many UAW do I think are tied to this war ??? Well not very many !!! A couple of thousand maybe !!! I'll ask you this gagrice, how many union jobs have been lost since the war kicked off ????  My guess is after 4 years of Obama Michigan and the UAW will be in worse shape Well I've lived most of my life under republican rule and the best economic times I've seen which wasn't perfect by any means but it was under some democrat from Arkansas ! -Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Aug 12, 2008 1:04 am) I don't work for GM or Delphi - I'm a Chrysler employee in the St. Louis area. I honestly thought the other day that you meant they earn MORE than $27/hr. Anyway, the production workers where I'm at earn around $29/hr in addition to any COLA (cost of living allowance) and shift premium. I wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference in GM wages. At any rate, I will not be with the UAW much longer. I received a call from Boeing earlier today and I have until August 18 to accept or reject their offer of a job, doing approximately the same work I had been doing and a starting salary close to what I'd been at after nearly 25 years with Chrysler. Hmm...should I take a layoff in October and unemployment checks with an uncertain future or a steady job with great benefits and promising future - a tough decision.  I might add that no import car will ever be found in my garage, no matter where I work. The UAW helped me get to where I am today.
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Replying to: tedebear (Aug 12, 2008 4:50 pm) You're Union, You're Proven. Hang tough, and God speed and good luck with the new job. Nobody will ever convince me that we union guys can't do things better, faster, and safer than the rest. |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Aug 12, 2008 3:30 pm) It was all done locally by local hiring people. I'm hoping there are not a lot of job transfers to other areas of the country on a regular basis. That's the main reason I was seeking employment in the same area I've lived in all my life. I wish I had a crystal ball and could look 5 years into the future to see what happened with Chrysler, the UAW, etc. It's tough to walk away from a job I've had for nearly 25 years but sometimes the tough decisions are the best ones to make. I'm going to try and delay my actual termination until the company comes out with a buyout or early retirement offer, probably in September from what I've heard. I can do that by using my 5 weeks of vacation and maybe a personal leave of absence if I had to extend it. |
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Replying to: rockylee (Aug 12, 2008 4:13 pm) So Carter wasn't all that bad and you can thank him for not allowing inflation to erode the purchasing power of your social security benefits. Obama seems like a well educated man, that if given a chance, he might just upset the myth that you envision. He has already been the underdog of the party and surprised everyone. I have never seen the GOP, Rush, and FOX NEWS (aka FAUX NEWS) as scared of anyone as of Obama. The night he won the democratic nomination, I though they were about to cry. This same right wing group were pushing hard for Ms Clinton is all but pathetic. Let the people vote their mind. Just tell me what Bush has done for you and or the country? |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Aug 12, 2008 5:37 pm) The real story about why he came to this much notariety and who supported his rise and popularity in the media is yet to be told. This will be more of media holding back information that's negative than happened during the Clinton campaign with all the bimbo eruptions. The Chicago politics is not a good background to have on your resume. Too many manipulated elections. Hillary Rodman is another example from there. Bill went there during his campaign to seek support from the party strength there. There's another Edwards story there. |
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Replying to: dallasdude1 (Aug 12, 2008 5:37 pm) Actually, Nixon resigned before he had a chance to be impeached. There have only been two U.S. presidents who have been impeached. Both were Democrats, although I don't think either of them belonged to the UAW.
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Replying to: tedebear (Aug 12, 2008 7:26 pm) Life was a mess when Carter left but it was a mess when he came in, too. No one get nostalgic for the 70s... |
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You last two posters get extra brownie points for mentioning the UAW in your posts.  In the news (as Tedebear knows I guess), lUAW members plan rally at Chrysler's headquarters. "More than 350 workers from Chrysler's South Assembly Plant will travel to the Detroit area to show dissatisfaction with the automaker's decision to idle the Fenton minivan plant and trim to one from two the number of shifts at the adjacent pickup plant, said Joe Shields, president of UAW Local 110." And there's this - Chrysler Asks UAW for Four 10-Hour Days.
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