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Replying to: fintail (Aug 11, 2008 7:34 am) Except that, when it comes to autos, people are choosing the MORE EXPENSIVE option (price a Honda Accord against an Impala, or even a Malibu). There is no evidence that "cheap" is the path to long-term success in the auto industry, or that people are buying the cheapest option all the time. If anything, the trend has been the exact opposite. The domestics have learned that cost-cutting will come back to bite them in the you-know-what (Ford, at least, has appeared to learn this). They have learned this the hard way. Even Hyundai is having trouble overcoming its bad reputation earned by selling lots of cheap cars that fell apart within a 3-4 years, despite much-improved vehicles.
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 11, 2008 7:18 am) Bail Out = Cop Out. Banks or Autos. Period. BTW, you know it's bad when you can get 0% financing on Corvette! 'Vette Fire Sale ON Now! Regards, OW
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 11, 2008 7:58 am) |
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 11, 2008 8:26 am) Well, now's your chance.
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 11, 2008 7:19 am) Oh, don't even get me started about Daimler's "merge of equals", when instead all they did was rob the Chrysler piggy bank for years until it was empty and then they ran back to Germany.
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Replying to: tedebear (Aug 11, 2008 2:28 pm) Personally I think it was a mistake for both. They both seemed to be dragged down by the merger/purchase. Were any UAW contracts lost in that whole deal?
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 11, 2008 4:01 am) Actually, I interpreted his statement as meaning that they make MORE than $27/hr. I rub elbows with UAW production workers on a daily basis and I have a pretty good idea of what their hourly wage is. Steve posted a link the other day about 900 Chrysler workers in Fenton losing their jobs. That hits home, as I'm one of them. As I mentioned in the past, I'm waiting for a buyout offer or early retirement package. After nearly 25 years with the company I don't want to leave without anything. Sitting around collecting unemployment benefits and SUB pay may sound nice but that's over a 50% pay cut for me. Plus, if the company sells out, files bankruptcy, etc., that SUB pay is on shaky ground. I had an interview with Boeing last Friday. I was told it would last one hour. It ended up lasting nearly 1.5 hours as I sat there being grilled by 4 interviewers. To me that's a positive sign. I figure if they didn't like me at the start I would have been out of there the first 20-25 minutes. The job is affiliated with the IBEW (oh no, another union). 
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Replying to: tedebear (Aug 11, 2008 6:39 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 11, 2008 5:22 pm) Daimler did not know how to market an American car company that is geared for the average consumer. It is not the same as their high end products they are used to selling. "Dr. Z" Dieter Zetsche failed there. I've heard that Daimler restricted Chrysler engineers in what they could do so their MB line would not be overshadowed by some less expensive American products. They certainly succeeded in doing that. Chrysler wanted more exposure to worldwide markets and figured Daimler could provide that opportunity. Daimler wanted to get their hands on Chrysler's huge cash reserves. They managed to do that fairly well. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 10, 2008 8:02 pm) I got to laugh at the comment that my idea's are scary ???  What's scary to me is that after 8 years of secrets from the Bush/Cheney/Rove administration you want to put a guy who will expand unfree trade ten-fold into office and open the borders like flood gates so Anheuser-Busch, can hire non-union illegal aliens, and illegal alien truck drivers can distribute the finished goods for Mrs. McCain, all around the country. Now that's what scares me !!! -Rocky
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