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Re: fintail [fintail] by grbeck
Aug 11, 2008 (7:18 am)
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EVERYBODY is about change. Just like every vehicle is suddently being touted for its wonderful fuel economy - including the Tahoe(!) I saw in the Chevy ad last night.
 
What is Obama's mantra ? Hope and Change." Sorry, but I have a hard time believing that a legislator schooled in the muck-and-mire of urban Chicago politics is going to change anything for the better. An examination of his platform reveals more of the same old stuff, including a big fat bailout for the Big Three.
 
I'm thinking that if Americans wanted to bail out, say, GM, they could go to their local GM dealer and buy a vehicle at full sticker. They obviously aren't doing that.
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housekeeping by steve_ HOST
Aug 11, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 11, 2008 5:45 am)

I was going to post that the Daimler/Chrysler merger was a UAW plot to ruin the quality of M-B, but figured it was too far off topic. But compared to the half dozen health care and immigration posts that I just whacked, maybe not....
 
Let's try to relate stuff to the UAW please. Thanks.
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Re: fintail [grbeck] by fintail
Aug 11, 2008 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 11, 2008 7:18 am)

Everybody claims change, but few produce it. The neocons have produced shamefully little positive change (not that their opponents have done otherwise). Just like change by the big 2.5 has been mostly too little too late for the past decade.
 
I think most Americans would buy everything at Wal-Mart and send more money to China if given the chance. There's no thought of a future in so many people.
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Re: fintail [fintail] by grbeck
Aug 11, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Aug 11, 2008 7:34 am)

fintail: I think most Americans would buy everything at Wal-Mart and send more money to China if given the chance. There's no thought of a future in so many people.
 
Except that, when it comes to autos, people are choosing the MORE EXPENSIVE option (price a Honda Accord against an Impala, or even a Malibu).
 
There is no evidence that "cheap" is the path to long-term success in the auto industry, or that people are buying the cheapest option all the time.
 
If anything, the trend has been the exact opposite.
 
The domestics have learned that cost-cutting will come back to bite them in the you-know-what (Ford, at least, has appeared to learn this). They have learned this the hard way.
 
Even Hyundai is having trouble overcoming its bad reputation earned by selling lots of cheap cars that fell apart within a 3-4 years, despite much-improved vehicles.
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Re: fintail [grbeck] by circlew
Aug 11, 2008 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 11, 2008 7:18 am)

I'm thinking that if Americans wanted to bail out, say, GM, they could go to their local GM dealer and buy a vehicle at full sticker. They obviously aren't doing that.
 
Bail Out = Cop Out. Banks or Autos. Period.
 
BTW, you know it's bad when you can get 0% financing on Corvette!
 
'Vette Fire Sale ON Now!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: fintail [grbeck] by fintail
Aug 11, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 11, 2008 7:58 am)

As long as incomes support this and they can support the debt loads, yes. But real incomes have not been rising.
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Re: fintail [circlew] by cooterbfd
Aug 11, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 11, 2008 8:26 am)

.......0% financing on Corvette!
  
Well, now's your chance.
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Re: housekeeping [steve_] by tedebear
Aug 11, 2008 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 11, 2008 7:19 am)

I was going to post that the Daimler/Chrysler merger was a UAW plot to ruin the quality of M-B
 
Oh, don't even get me started about Daimler's "merge of equals", when instead all they did was rob the Chrysler piggy bank for years until it was empty and then they ran back to Germany.

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