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Replying to: lemko (Jul 05, 2008 6:34 am)  -Rocky |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 06, 2008 6:56 am)  I suppose we could rename the Detroit Pistons, the Detriot Bullets, since Washington, changed it's name to the geeky Wizards and like Killadelphia, where once proud industry's stood are now replaced by well bullets, and other violence. Like I've said before my friends on the other side are getting what they wanted !!! The Free Market, has yielded us low paying jobs, and those high-tech jobs and service jobs you righty's love to talk about that are going to replace all these union jobs..... well where are they ??? huh ?? I didn't hear you ??? You've had 8 years of a republican president and 6 years of congress and all those low paying manufactoring jobs ya'll allowed to be shipped out are not being replaced by these high-paying service/high-tech jobs. Well from what I can see is this folks that manufactoring went to China/Mexico, The High-Tech/Service Jobs went to India, and everything else left here is being done by illegal aliens. The only secure jobs created under Bush, has been the healthcare industry but with everyone losing their jobs and not having insurance benefits who's going to pay the doctors and nurses ???  So lemko and I might jump off the deep end occassionally but darn it their is a lot of truth in what we say. I guess if you are surrounded by corn fields on all sides life may look differently in your perspective. -Rocky
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 06, 2008 4:55 pm) With the way you rail on UAW workers I would never have guessed you would drive a american made car. I almost wished you drove Honyota's but I have a feeling you wouldn't rail ontheir workers even though they make a helluva alot more in wages and benefits than your average UAW worker !!! Also your anti-union/michigan rant from a earlier post is sad. Marsha7, you said something to the fact that workers don't have capital invested in the company thus they have no right to strike. Funny you rail on communist, socialist, dictators, but capitalism breeds that same mentatlity. The bottom line in all three is the select few at the top get it all. The greedy with money control the world and the chess game called life. Unions and other organizations that get togeather, and stick togeather like pawns can checkmate the kings. "United We Stand, Divided We Fall" "The Rock"
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 06, 2008 7:21 am) My wife's niece and nephew live in Ohio. He is an airplane mechanic. Some airline went broke that he was working for. He was offered a great job in Alaska and turned it down. He cannot stand to be away from family and his Ohio State Football team. He is going to drive truck so he can stay in OHIO. He had a great job for the government here in San Diego and quit to go back to OHIO. go figure Well who wants to live in Alaska, full-time ??? Maybe 2-3 months out of the year for me !!!! With the cost of living in Alaska, his truck driving job will more/less be equivalent I'm sure. I did the whole move out of state deal gagrice, and while I respect your accomplishments pal, which included a lot of moving around it's not for everyone. Some people are really close to their family's and trust me at times I regret moving back to michigan, but I believe 14 months later that I would still make the same decision over again as it has blessed me with a lot of happy times with my parents, brothers, grandparents, and a couple of lady friends that have lifted my spirit in my most difficult times.  It's hard to put a price tag on that pal !!! "The Rock"
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 06, 2008 12:29 pm) |
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Replying to: rockylee (Jul 06, 2008 11:09 pm) I have given you plenty of places to look. Companies are NOT going to move into Michigan with the political climate that exists there. Just talked to one of the guys that retired after I did. He is back working in his home town in Tennessee. He cannot believe the level of incompetence in the workplace. He is wiring schools and hotels for network access. He is 55 and claims these young guys are so slow. He did not want to go back to work but a friend begged him to at least work part time so the company could get caught up with all the work they have. Pulling cable through big buildings is not easy work. That is why they have a hard time getting help. Young people in general feel entitled to a paycheck for doing little or NOTHING.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 07, 2008 4:56 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Jul 06, 2008 11:40 pm) A better question is who wants to eat? Who wants a decent lifestyle? Anchorage weather is very much like Michigan weather. Alaska was settled in the 1930s by people from Michigan. This is not the first time that Michigan was in the dumps. During the great Depression the Feds helped relocate several hundred families from Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin to the Matanuska Valley of Alaska. That was obviously a tougher breed of people than the current Michigan populace. I have NO sympathy for someone that will not move to get a job. I say let them starve where they like. I hated to see my daughter and family move from here to Indiana. It was a good opportunity for them to own a home and get out of apartment living. His company gave him a raise to move out there from San Diego. They would have never been able to afford a home here. There they can have a home and a better life style than was possible here with his level of income. The UAW workers that do not get re-trained in other skills are headed for the homeless shelters when the unemployment runs out. Obama is NOT going to save your jobs or the state of Michigan. He has no interest in the plight of the working man. NAFTA is here to stay and be expanded. Better to work within the confines than to be walking the streets digging in dumpsters. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 07, 2008 5:41 am) I can tell you in TN he is making less than half of what he made working in Alaska. He just wanted to spend more time fishing with his grandkids and decided to take early retirement. He probably took the job to keep that big Dodge Ram filled with diesel and his 200HP bass boat motor running. |
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jul 06, 2008 9:27 am) Amazing statement. We are part of the global market when it comes to the wages which the companys wish to pay the worker actually making/handling/selling the stuff. We are part of the global market when it comes to importing stuff. We are part of the global market when it comes to the salaries paid executives in the companies NOT. Through the years I've watched the executive compensation packages swell on the stocks I've looked at. But the worker compensation drops. The executives are understood by the people who end up in congress much better than they understand the working guy. The executives are the ones carrying the money to congress ( the housing industry is giving more and more as the legislation to bail them out with taxpayer money increases ). Now we're up to an $8000 tax credit for a new home mortgage to help the industry pawn off the costs of their bad mortgages onto the taxpayer. And we have people ranting about UAW workers who soaked the industry through the years with the executives carrying the water buckets for them to do so. Overpaid yes. For those gleeful that people are losing their jobs in Michigan, sometimes that comes home to roost. I have to admit there's no sympathy from me for those who sucked at the benefits of having those well-paid UAW workers. I cut cross country through an area I used to drive on the way back from an antique shop yesterday. Many small businesses run out of small buildings along the route are GONE. It's been 3-4 years since I went that way and looked; but it's obvious they've gone with the decline in the economy.
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