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Replying to: marsha7 (May 28, 2008 8:33 am) Bob, no doubt, if you have the skills, you should aspire to do better. However, Chick-fil-A can hire the 14 yr old just like the moms they hire, because they have the shifts available to accomodate them. Think of it a diiferent way; many companies pay a shift differential for 3rd shift. Generally, it's 10%. Now, the SKILL SET is still the same for that job, but they pay an incentive to get people to work off hours. Now, Walmart could hire a 14 yr old to do a job (let's say janitorial) from 4-7 pm, plus weekends, and get away with paying minimum wage. They could hire a mom to do it from 10-2, and the same thing applies. But if they need someone FULL TIME, 40 hrs/wk, the game changes. SAME skill set, different game. Could they get a retiree to do it for minimum? Sure. But, how many want to? I say the wage required has as much to do with incentive to get you in as it does with skill set. In this case, incentive to work full time, as opposed to overnight. Another thing would be area (combat pay????). Pushing a broom takes the same skill in NYC as in El Paso, but obviously is worth more doing it for the Ritz Carlton as opposed to a Motel 6. So while I'll reiterate that pushing a broom is not meant for the guy living in a Mc Mansion raising 5 kids, the value is based on more than just the skill set it takes to do the job. |
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Replying to: tedebear (May 28, 2008 2:02 pm) Heck, filter water and bottle it in your basement. Anything. Regards, OW
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Replying to: dieselone (May 28, 2008 2:37 pm) Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (May 29, 2008 3:02 am) No way, that "screams" dead end job to me. Sure it may pay fairly well, or at least it used to, but that would be a last resort option for me. |
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Replying to: circlew (May 29, 2008 3:00 am) He could have continued hanging off the back of that truck complaining how he should be making more money. My oldest son is staunchly hanging on to the belief that he can live large selling cars. He has been hanging on to that dream for many years now, yet the pay just seems to be getting lower and lower. Yes, there are or were people making good money in that arena, but they are few and far between. He just can't seem to grasp the fact that a $10 per hour steady job would pay better than the commissions he gets for 60+ hours on the car lots. Folks that sit around demanding more money for their non skilled jobs, will still be doing that years from now. They also complain that management salaries are too high.. The cure for them is to get the necessary credentials to qualify themselves for those high paying management positions. Then they can sit around and talk about how the wage earners are earning too much. Kip |
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Replying to: tedebear (May 28, 2008 2:02 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (May 29, 2008 5:57 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: lemko (May 29, 2008 5:57 am) You should consider it. You may make more than your part time job pays. The last two years of high school I mowed lawns. I carried the mower in my trunk with the lid tied down. When I went to work after high school for Pacific Telephone I took a BIG pay cut. I still did my best customers on Saturday. I often wonder where I would be now if I had stayed in that business. Probably have a couple hundred illegals working for me..  PS You will be hard pressed here in CA getting an illegal to work for less than $10 per hour. I pay $12 to a fellow that lives in TJ and drives up here to work. He works one day a week for most of the neighbors. He does yard work, plumbing, concrete or carpenter work. Very dependable. He has an H2B work permit.
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Replying to: gagrice (May 29, 2008 10:48 am) There is an endless stable of them for any business start up you can think of. Just pull up in your UAW-built SUV and pick 'em up every day! These people have the desire...illegal or not. They make more than the minimum wage WITHOUT UNION DUES and no medical premiums as far as they eye can see. They work hard for the money... If you watch them work, they are quite professional. Where are today's kids again?? Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (May 29, 2008 10:54 am) You have hit the nail on the head. I have offered work to all the unemployed nephews. It is difficult getting them to work on time and work for 8 hours is more than they can handle. Todays teens in general are a lost generation... There is a family in our church with 5 great boys. They have worked for me from time to time. As they turn 18 someone grabs them up for good jobs. Two have gone full time into construction and one just got accepted into some program with the sheriffs dept. So hard to find good legal help here at any price.
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