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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 29, 2008 1:25 pm) It is very difficult when forced to have less usable income. We live on what we make. Easy to adjust when income rises. Not so easy the other way. Do you know anything, other than what we have been reading here, about the American Axle situation? I find it very difficult to believe AA would cut the pay of their senior workers by 1/2 with the swoop of a pen. Work quality would drop drastically from the disgruntled employees. There are better alternatives that wouldn't be so devastating. Freezing wages until the rest of the industry catches up, would be one. While that might seem harsh and offer a bleak future, it has some merit. Same income we are used to living on, and enough time to adjust toward the future. Time for more education, other souses of income, and so forth. The person that just started at $20, or so, is still probably making a good income compared to the market place of comparable jobs. He is still making his $20 and has learned to live on that. If it isn't enough, he can look at the market place for something better, go into a different type work, or get more education or training. New hires start at $10. Those that work best get better jobs and have earned more pay. Not just because they are "next". As attrition takes place, consider whether or not they really need to be replaced. Please don't misunderstand. If a given job requires exceptional skills, it is worth more pay. That is the type of thing a CEO worth his salt is supposed to deal with or contract outside "Experts" that can deal with it. Pay the CEO no more than 20X the salary of the highest paid wage earner, plus bonuses. Bonus to be based on his salary plus the % of increased profit the company did. Example: The highest paid wage earner gets $28 hourly, so pay the CEO $560. That would be $1,164,800 yearly plus bonus. If the company made 10% profit, he picks up an additional $116, 480 at Christmas. No profit = no bonus ! No profit for a while = no job! While we are at it, pay the same percentage of bonus to the wage earners. That $20 guy would get $416 at Christmas, if the profits were 10%. Have a suggestion program for wage earners that pays 10% of company savings or extra profits over a 2 year period, with no cap. Example: A suggestion saves the company $1,000,000 over 2 years. That "suggestor" picks up a check for $100,000 and the company is better off by $900,000 for that 2 year period and potentially another half million each year for years to come. Win Win!. Any suggestion that is adopted pays something. Have a minimum suggestion award of say $50 even if the suggestion doesn't save any money, but improves working conditions or safety. That way every employee has a "DOG IN THE FIGHT" ! Seem fair ? Of course, than isn't likely to happen!  Kip
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Replying to: kipk (Mar 01, 2008 5:20 am) I did read that AAM just spent $3 billion upgrading it's facilities, which seems like a lot of coin when you consider total revenues were $3.7 billion (could this be a case of them being caught in the banking crisis???) Your idea of tying compensation to workers earnings is valid. Problem is, there is so much corporate INCEST on executive boards, this would never happen. If Congress was run like executive boards, there would be ethics violation charges flying all over the place. |
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Replying to: marsha7 (Feb 28, 2008 6:40 pm) I hear he's busy selling cars, may have a female friend taking up his time, and has lunch once a week with head people from GM giving advice on how to handle the people who are their workers to maximize productivity from the UAW. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 02, 2008 9:33 am)  I have spent time with some people at GM, and some in management do actually listen to my advice as far as inventory goes which is a on-going process I'm trying to slowly change. I sometimes assist with appraisals and looked at as the product guy. I've made a impact but I'm likely to jump for greener grass pretty soon. A couple days ago I was being recruited by a Saturn store when I helped buy a crew cab 2WD from their pre-owned inventory for our lot. That was a good feeling  As far as the American Axel strike goes I fully support the UAW. I'm glad that NAFTA and free trade is being brought up and talked about this election season !!! Rocky P.S. Marsha7, did you miss me or something ?  
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Replying to: rockylee (Mar 15, 2008 5:56 pm) We have all missed you my friend. Hope all is going well for you. Is that strike at Axle still going. No news recently. Must not be busting any knee caps
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Replying to: rockylee (Mar 15, 2008 5:56 pm) UAW strike is slowing production at Moraine Dayton plant. NAFTA is a touchy point because it affects the Canadians who are good trading partners.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 16, 2008 11:50 am) http://www.michaelbuble.com/ What is going on with that strike. Is it the end of those workers? Is this another factory gone south?
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Replying to: rockylee (Mar 15, 2008 5:56 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 16, 2008 3:45 pm) The recordings are better than his in-person voice through the amplification system. But I enjoyed it (I like LES Elgart/Larry Elgart and big band sound -- he has a GREAT band and showcased them during the show as individuals not just "the band." This was first event concert I've been too in a long time. Lots of ice shows and theater but no concerts. I hate the warmup acts. Gimme the real thing even if it's only 1 hour. Buble was much longer. USA Today strike This is the most recent I got on Google. It sounds like the workers haven't got it that they're getting squashed like the migrants in Grapes of Wrath. Someone says that if the UAW had stood up to GM this group wouldn't be having to strike now to get what they want. Meanwhile the big landowners and businesses and government goes merrily on their way squashing the worker bees because more are coming in to do the menial tasks for less money. I'm stunned by the relevance of Grapes of Wrath as I read it again to current economics in the US. I thought about the strike and Rocky going to Cincinnati while passing a truckload of new Malibus on their way down I75 from the shipping yard next to the Moraine truck plant. Reps of the plant have gone to Detroit with local government leaders to tell GM that the community cares. They have production through 2010 and then the plant hasn't been assigned a new product as the Envoy and others they produce are phased out. While the workers are overpaid, the alternative of closing the plants just to show them there's world competition out there is ruthless. |
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Replying to: rockylee (Mar 15, 2008 5:56 pm) Heck, I missed you rocky! The GM bashers have been going wild in here despite the Malibu and the truly awesome CTS.
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