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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jan 29, 2008 8:34 pm) Gonna have to watch that one and see how the guy did survive out in the wild for so long. Fantasy Land ??? What's wrong with buying Asian goods? I agree, if they are toys and contain lead paint then there's a problem. It's a free-market society. My dollar goes to what will buy me the most for less. Simply put. If my dollar is earned honestly then I have the right to spend it how I wish. I like the crap out of you iluv, but their is a lot wrong with it. Not so much the Japanese, part of it but you are one who would buy a Geely, Chery, Brickland, and not feel a bit of remorse or find anything wrong with it.  That is the kind of thinking that is wrong with our country and is why we are headed for the sewer as a society. I don't agree with cheating, in any form. Cheating on taxes is wrong. How many of you will plan on cheating on your Fed. and state income taxes. Agree...... rocky...that is one thing that American people are very good at. Cheating. That drives up prices for all of us. I don't want to hear that I have to buy American or Union-made products. It is a capitalistic, free-market economy. I'll buy Kia, Mitsubishi...I may even take a Ford Verve test drive in about 5 years...if it's an all-electric vehicle. You are right you don't have to buy as it is a free society. However, when you or a future generation loved one can't find a good job perhaps that thinking won't look so great after the fact ?  The PATCO dorks were just that--dorks exemplified. Selfish, stupid, short-sighted dorks. Dishonest and selfish. That they are union people is...well...proving my point on this forum, eh? A big 'ol Canadian eh for ya. Well I respect each and every one of them for taking a stand against that senial worthless dictator. I know one of those PATCO dorks as iluv, calls them personally and he is a great man and friend of mine. All because a alztheimer, brain dead, fool tells you to get back to work or else.... My buddy "Neutron" Jack Welch, needs to import more Malaysian made goods. -Rocky
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Anyway, Rock, I got this email from my FIL the other day and immediately thought you'd get a kick out of it, so I'll post it below. Joe Smith started the day early having set his alarm > clock (MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6am. While his coffeepot > ( MADE IN CHINA ) was perking, he shaved with his > electric razor ( MADE IN HONG KONG ). He put on a > dress shirt ( MADE IN SRI LANKA ), designer jeans ( > MADE IN SINGAPORE ) and tennis shoes ( MADE IN KOREA > ). After cooking his breakfast in his new electric > skillet (MADE IN INDIA ) he sat down with his > calculator ( MADE IN MEXICO ) to see how much he > could spend today. After setting his watch ( MADE IN > TAIWAN ) to the radio ( MADE IN INDIA ) he got in > his car ( MADE IN GE! RMANY ) filled it with GAS > from Saudi Arabia and continued his search for a > good paying AMERICAN J OB At the end of yet another > discouraging and fruitless day checking his Computer > (Made In Malaysia ), Joe decided to relax for a > while. He put on his sandals ( MADE IN BRAZIL ) > poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE ) and > turned on his TV ( MADE IN INDONESIA ), and then > wondered why he can't find a good paying job in > AMERICA ...
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 29, 2008 7:13 pm) Chester, PA - a huge pocket of poverty in one of Pennsylvania's wealthiest counties, once thrived as places like Sun Ship and Ford called it home. Chester's slogan once was "What Chester Makes Makes Chester!" Well, nothing is made in Chester these days so I guess Chester is nothing. I have immense respect for factory workers as my Dad was one and he raised us three kids well. Dad was a very responsible parent who worked hard and raised us right, and yes, he was a union member!
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 29, 2008 8:20 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 29, 2008 8:26 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 29, 2008 10:22 pm) As for Reagan, I sure didn't mourn him. I felt sorrier for Gerald Ford who at least seemed like a nice guy who got stuck with a job he really didn't want. Reagan was a doddering old fool who forgot his own union roots as he was once president of the Screen Actors' Guild.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 29, 2008 7:06 pm) A few years ago stories were published about how social security recipients received all that they had paid into the program in a short couple of years after they started collecting it. From then on they were living on the dole. This was published at a time when the recipients were saying how much more they should be getting because they had "paid in a whole lot of money." Even if the employers' contribution and a moderate, safe investment, rate of interested were applied, the typical recipient then received all the money in about 4.5 years if I recall the number. In exchange for potential larger returns that were safe from the multimillion dollar executives grasp of companies the workers voted for their congresspeople who promised them more and more social security return. It started as a subsidy; it is not supposed to be a retirement plan. But the subsidy-sized payments, in the minds of gimme-voters, are supposed to give luxury retirement checks for the rest of their long lives. And this is from many people who didn't save for their own retirement and lived mre extravagantly than they should have done. Then they expect taxes of others to subsidize their retirement.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 30, 2008 6:00 am) That's very true. A big share of large companies had retirement plans by the 1940s when SS started to kick in. Retirement plans started to be pilfered when the big conglomerates started buying up the smaller companies. That retirement fund was like a big nest egg to be filched. Now company paid retirements are mostly matching funds into 401K accounts. Which people should take advantage of. My gripe is with the robbing of the Social Security fund in 1960s to fund the Vietnam war. If a person is going to pay in all his working years. He should get back at least what he pays in. I will have to live way past the national average to get just what I paid in. No interest on that money. I paid the maximum amount every year from 1966 until I retired in 2006. That is a lot more than was put into my Union retirement account. And as I have already mentioned the Union retirement is well over double Social Security. The key word being Social. Or Socialized retirement. Where you rob me to pay some deadbeat that works a few years then expects a fat check from out of my pocket. We have a close friend that works in SSI. She is a case worker. She sees people everyday that have worked a very short time and are going on the Social Security roles. Most are parents of immigrants that are brought over just before they reach retirement age. Rocky that is the reason the system will be broke when you get around to collecting. And you can thank your Democrat brothers and sisters for spreading the wealth to people that do NOT deserve to receive that money. I don't even think that FDR had that in mind when he pushed for SS in the beginning. It is pure and simple buying votes. |
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 29, 2008 10:01 pm) I agree, and it is especially true about vehicles. They are designed for a lot of miles and not many years. They crumple in the most minor of accidents and are not worth repairing. On the Chinese front. Do not eat the Chinese dumplings. TOKYO — At least eight Japanese were sickened, including a child who remains in a coma, after eating Chinese-made dumplings contaminated with an insecticide, police and health officials said Wednesday.. Looks like Japan is buying Chinese stuff also. |
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Replying to: dieselone (Jan 30, 2008 4:44 am) That is a great description of "reality" and thanks for posting it. Rocky |
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