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The problem is as I said "The Greatest Generation" sold out to the 3rd world so their stock portfolio's would boom (short-term) they could buy more "goods" at a cheaper price and they expect me, my kids, to pickup the tab for their social security, national debt, making 50% to 75% less than they did in real wages and benefits. Their is "hope" because people like lemko, are still around. We are obviously in the minority but perhaps enough of us will be able to pass our message along to future generations and they can truely be "the greatest generation" as they try to repair the damages done by previous generation to this country.
 
-Rocky
 
P.S. I do not shop at Wal~Mart, and it's not my union buddy's that are buying their shoddy toxic crap !!! That would be your pseudo-capitalist, free marketeer, buddy's.

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Replying to: lemko (Jan 29, 2008 4:53 pm)

...you're going to bash the supposed poor quality of domestic automobiles from 20 years ago yet defend the abominable quality of Chinese goods sold at abominable retailers like Wal~Mart? How can you defend a monstrous entity like Wal~Mart? They are the personification of everything that is evil about Corporate America. I certainly won't be laughing if rocky shouts, "Boycott Wal~Mart!" I already do!
 
Thanks, lemko !!!
 
Shoot, if all the merchandise sold at Sears, Sports Authority, Circuit City and others was made here, virtually NO AMERICANS who wanted to work would be out of a job. There would be a lot less social ills like poverty, crime, drug abuse, alcoholism, child abuse, etc. as well. Come to Philadelphia which was once called "The Workshop of the World!" Postindustrial Philly is now refered to as "Killadelphia." I'm sure there would be a lot less thugs shooting people if they had viable jobs like there once were at Disston Saw, Dodge Steel, Botany 500, Stetson Hat, Baldwin Locomotive, The Budd Company, Philco, Merck, General Electric, Breyer's Ice Cream, Whitman Chocolate, etc.
 
EXACTLY !!! Replace the drugs, and guns, with a good paying industrial/factory job !!! History shows that good jobs kills high crime rates and improves the standard of living for everyone. Those would be thugs would be paying taxes, buying cars, homes, have health care, and would send their kids to good schools which in turn improves the education of the kids, which leads to at least some of those kids going on to college and becoming professionals. It's like some people hate and have zero respect for factory workers. Look at how many white collar jobs those regular joes and janes support. Engineers, Executives, Human Resources, Middle & Lower Management, etc, etc, to name a few. So yeah, those company's lemko, mentioned are just a few of the "great jobs" in Philly, has lost to un free market !!!
 
-Rocky

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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 29, 2008 7:06 pm)

Well as we continue to "lower" our standard of living replacing UAW jobs with McJobs, it's going to be virtually impossible to balance the budget, let alone pay on the national debt. Your idol Ronald Reagan, quadrupled the national debt with big defense spending while he was president. Oh yeah, he also thought it was a great idea while destroying the lives of striking air traffic controllers with scab labor and rewriting labor laws to give corporate america tax breaks to off-shore business from the U.S. to foreign lands. It also was a great idea to manufactor U.S. defense systems in Asia, and you and many others say this man was our greatest president ??? Talk about memory loss or rose colored glasses ??? Those were great idea's weren't they ??? I'm sure you support that don't ya as it made good business sense to save a buck on labor.
 
Some can rah-rah-rah-rah and rip ol' Rocky, about his age and so-called lack of living it. I remember it as I was their marching along side my IUE rep grandmother on strikes, organizing campaigns, labor day marches, union meetings, I lived in politics in the 80's. So yeah, my take of seeing working people take the Reagan, bullet view is much different than yours. My grandmother, whom I probably love, and respect, more than any one person on this earth helped raise me. I was spoiled rotten by her getting to swim in the hotel pools, while she was off negotiating contracts, and handling other union business that I couldn't attend. I as a child thought it was a huge treat to go "out to eat". I as a youngster, got to meet alot of powerful people through her. I didn't at that age "grasp" just how powerful some of these folks were but I do remember many of the conversations like the patriot missile deal, GM Strike, Rowe Strike, Organizing Campaigns, labor marches, and sat many hours in the IUE District 8 union hall here in Grand Rapids. I can still remember Grandma's office piled with stacks of paperwork and the smell of coffee.
 
My grandmother also went to Washington D.C. on behalf of the IUE to fight Reagan, on making the Patriot Missle outside of the U.S. Raytheon, was going to set up shop in China, to assemble this missile because they could do it a lot cheaper. Reagan, as senial as he was or should I say Nancy (whom was in control the last 2-3 years) thought this was a great idea !!!!
 
So I don't want to hear how great Reagan, was and how JFK, robbed the SS fund because Reagan, H.W. Bush, W. Bush, blew billions of S.S. money on "big military" and wars we started. Each one of them were anti-union, anti-worker, anti-american, with their domestic policies.
 
Grandma, has to have triple bypass surgery tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. in the morning in Florida, so if I'm a little more fired up than normal this evening she is on my mind.
 
-Rocky
 

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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 29, 2008 6:46 pm)

P.S. I do not shop at Wal~Mart, and it's not my union buddy's that are buying their shoddy toxic crap !!! That would be your pseudo-capitalist, free marketeer, buddy's.
 
Now that's almost funny. With that I statement I honestly believe you don't shop at Walmart to see who it is that is shopping there.
 
Funny thing is, when my FIL was a United Steel Workers of America worker, the union gave the workers Sam's Club memberships.

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Replying to: dieselone (Jan 29, 2008 8:12 pm)

Well back in the day Wal-Mart w/ SAM WALTON, at the helm was a good american corporation !!!!! It was his kids that corrupted the joint !!!!
 
You could "BUY AMERICAN" at Wal~Mart, at one time because Sam, had sense in his head !!!
 
-Rocky

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