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#18967 of 19798 Re: this is too funny [steve_]
by dallasdude1
Jun 23, 2012 (8:29 pm)
However, they are exempt from EPA and or any other regulations, unlike any other industry. They themselves claim that just over 5% of their drilling is less than perfect and or leaks. It reeks of another BP environmental crime.
#18968 of 19798 Re: this is too funny [dallasdude1]
by gagrice
Jun 23, 2012 (9:06 pm)
Good to see you back. Been a couple years eh?
So how do you feel about all the Free Trade agreements your man in the WH is pushing through? TPP ought to put the final nail in the UAW coffin. I can't believe the UAW backed KORUS. Just in time for Korea to sign a $3 billion parts supply contract with Government Motors.
#18969 of 19798 Re: fintail [dallasdude1]
by imidazol97
Jun 24, 2012 (5:28 am)
So much wrong and so little time: >Send the bill for two wars, ten plus years of tax cuts and Medicare Part D (no negotiated rates, like in the VA) to those who were blind followers of Bush Jr. He took lobby money from big pharmaceuticals; he then repays them by allowing them to overcharge. So aren't the taxpayers indirectly paying for that lobby money? Just as we taxpayers pay 2K per Walmart employee a year average on social service indirectly.
Are you talking about the payback to pharmaceutical companies in exchange for supporting the Obama takeover of healthcare bill? I just got two tiny bottles of antibiotics for eyes at $90 each. Sounds like BO Care isn't working. Also did you mean the paybacks to Solyndra and other "green" companies tied to fundraising for the COWH (current occupant White House)? Or did you mention the $500,000,000 taken out of Medicare for BO Care? OR did you mention the abolition of Medicare Ddvantage earlier this year only to improperly use an experimentation fund in Medicare to cover the cost for the rest of this year so we seniors don't figure out that Medicare Advantage is gone until after the (re)election of President this fall?
I'm just trying to figure out who's to blame here--Bush has been gone 3 years and the last 5 years have been Democrat controlled... Just wonderin'. :grin
As for UAW, they should have been neutered in Obama's bankruptcy procedings. They should have had to reapply and reassert to be the union, if any, in the auto plants. Wonder why Barry didn't do that? Money for his campaign? Support on the streets for his doings with UAW members and others going door-to-door would have been gone in 2010 and 2012?
#18970 of 19798 Re: this is too funny [gagrice]
by imidazol97
Jun 24, 2012 (5:28 am)
How hard will TPP affect the UAW?
#18971 of 19798 Re: this is too funny [imidazol97]
by gagrice
Jun 24, 2012 (5:52 am)
This report starts at the 32 minute point. It is well worth watching.
A U.S. proposal for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade pact between the United States and eight Pacific nations would allow foreign corporations operating in the U.S. to appeal key regulations to an international tribunal. The body would have the power to override U.S. law and issue penalties for failure to comply with its ruling.
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/14/breaking_08_pledge_leaked_trade_doc
As more and more of our country and businesses are bought up by other countries, the UAW and other Unions will have to deal with management that is not just looking out for themselves. You are so right about dissolving the Unions when the GM and C BKs were negotiated. If they decided to go with the UAW it would have leveled the wages for all workers.
What is your take on the Chinese buying up large blocks of your state along with Michigan and Idaho?
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/will-toledo-ohio-be-the-first-major-- - american-city-to-be-owned-by-china
#18972 of 19798 Re: this is too funny [gagrice]
by imidazol97
Jun 24, 2012 (5:56 am)
I scanned article about Toledo. Hadn't heard that before? I'll read later. Amazing that Toledo UAW Jeep plant is touted by BO as a showcase for his success with passing out money and power to UAW.
We also have governor Kasick (Kasuck to many of us) is bragging about how Ohio has improved at a faster rate in recovergy than other states--of course we were lower than most of them in number of jobs left after manufacturing left. So increasing from 20 to 30 is a 50% increase while going from 50 to 60 is a 17% increase. I think you're looking at a one term governor; no Wisc Saturday night salvation for Gov. Kasick.
#18973 of 19798 Re: fintail [dallasdude1]
by lemko
Jun 25, 2012 (6:35 am)
#18974 of 19798 Re: fintail [lemko]
by fintail
Jun 25, 2012 (8:58 am)
That just about sums it up. It's a nice theory, but so was communism.
#18975 of 19798 Re: this is too funny [gagrice]
by jayrider
Jun 25, 2012 (11:32 am)
Just a comment or two re --this is too funny. It is what it is. As long as humans have lived in large groups there has been a need to share so that common issues can be resolved for the benefit of most. There was and always be those who will try to use the system to gain a personal advantage. I find it amusing that folks can align themselves with like minded citizens to point the finger at those they disagree with as the reason that corruption and stupidity prevails. If we could just get rid of the Bluebirds then we Sparrows will rule with fairness and fiscal responsibility. Maybe all we need is more religion/god to resolve these issues [my version of course] ? It seems to be working well in the Middle East. The current state of affairs is nothing new. Every political party since 1776 has been equally corrupt. The winners take care of their own because they can. It will never change. It is remarkable that we live as well as we do in spite of this fact.