Last post on May 05, 2013 at 2:30 PM
You are in the Automotive News & Views
What is this discussion about?
#18712 of 19798 Re: fintail [srs_49]
Apr 03, 2012 (12:05 pm)
If only that included the medical and COLA stuff...or the eventuality that more than 20 years was needed. If only we could all be so lucky.
#18713 of 19798 Union corruption abounds
May 13, 2012 (7:55 pm)
The middle class don't stand a chance. The government is corrupted by corporate America, and the Unions that are supposed to protect the workers are raping their ranks.
Life is good at the top of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers.
The union, with its headquarters in Kansas City, Kan., represents about 59,000 workers in the U.S. and Canada who make and repair boilers, fit pipes and work on ships and power plants. The recession has hit their trade hard, reducing union membership.
At the same time, the presidentís salary has surged 67 percent in the past six years, notcounting a recent raise. Add in travel and some other expenses, and Newton B. Jones received more than $600,000 last year, putting him at the absolute top of the presidents of the dozen biggest unions in the country.
Many relatives of union officers also ride the payroll.
Totaling the pay to just the families of Jones and two other executives, the union and its affiliates gave them more than $2 million in annual salary, according to the most recent financial reports filed by the organizations.
#18714 of 19798 Re: Union corruption abounds [gagrice]
May 14, 2012 (12:08 am)
Good to hear from you Gary - I was a bit worried you had fallen off the face of the earth!
#18715 of 19798 Re: Union corruption abounds [tlong]
May 14, 2012 (6:14 am)
Since Edmund's took away our very enjoyable Political thread, there is not much left for me here. I do follow the diesel threads, that get pretty active. I am more active on the EIC (Economy in Crisis) Facebook discussion. Though somewhat outnumbered by Liberals. Over 1000 people linked. Rocky is there and got me involved. The Edmund's website seems to be very slow these days. I click on a subject and go get a cup of coffee. Not sure what they have done to it.
#18716 of 19798 Re: Union corruption abounds [gagrice]
May 14, 2012 (7:38 am)
Seems like the leaders in the unions act like they think they are representatives or senators and pig out on the little guy's dinner trough. Gonna take drastic measures to get rid of that attitude.
As for Facebook, I don't venture there with any real information. The lack of security is amazing. A few years back some computer virus was passed around through something on Facebook. And it sucks information from your email lists, etc., to use to try to propagate itself. Indeed, a similar thing just happened with someone we knew 7 years ago who apparently had my email in his lists from Boy Scout days: LinkedIn keeps sending me his name on an email wanting me to join so it can use my email name lists.
They're both as bad as the Re: virus that kept sending ads under others' emails accounts with "Re: xxxxxxx" that it gleaned somehow.
#18717 of 19798 Re: Union corruption abounds [imidazol97]
May 14, 2012 (8:47 am)
I seem to get a lot of those LinkedIn emails from some people I know and some I don't. I have enough connection now. Don't need anymore. I just delete them. I don't comment on any of the media websites other than Edmund's. Not sure why they completely wiped our political thread off their site.
As far as Unions I fought against corruption in our Teamster Local for 37 years. It is someone else's turn to look at where the Union funds are going.
#18718 of 19798 Re: Union corruption abounds [gagrice]
May 14, 2012 (8:59 am)
Like you, I was MOST disappointed when Edmunds shut down the off-topic forum for politics, and now spend very little time here. I really enjoyed the banter between the members, and thought things were overall very civil.
Like Imadizol, I won't post on Facebook due to security concerns.
What other sites are good for the political banter we used to enjoy here?
#18719 of 19798 Re: Union corruption abounds [slorenzen]
May 14, 2012 (9:29 am)
I have not found any replacement for that politics blog that I wanted to be a part of. Most have no control with lots of foul language and hateful people. I agree ours here on Edmund's for the most part was very civil. We can always debate GW with Larsb and Steve. That is such a narrow subject. As is this one.
As an on topic comment, Rocky considers the current UAW president Bob King, a traitor to the UAW and America. Over his endorsement of KORUS and other Free Trade Agreements that are taking jobs from the middle class workers here.
#18720 of 19798 Re: Union corruption abounds [gagrice]
May 14, 2012 (10:40 am)
Union leaders are overpaid cronyists and nepotists, and are supporting measures which go against working people, and so are most director level and above corporate "leaders" (oh wait, they make tough decisions so they deserve their gold, right), consultants, FIRE industry cowards, cereal box MBA recipients, and so on. Not to mention the self-titled capitalists who manage to find ultimate success through either hard work, luck, connections, or a mix of all three - and could have only done it in the US, then run away to sketchy tax dodger havens when the bills come due (reason to boycott facebook right there). And neither the unions nor their opponents want to offer up any concrete solutions to our trade surrender.
#18721 of 19798 Re: Union corruption abounds [gagrice]
by kirstie_h HOST
May 14, 2012 (12:15 pm)
As stated when it was closed, it was taking up way too much host time. Maybe you missed some of the uncivil conversation, because there were many deletions.
Personally, I was getting tons of email related to it - telling me I needed to jump in and remove this post or that post, and if I didn't, I was clearly biased and unfit to host. Then following removals, I'd get emails from members intimating that I must be a die-hard this or that if I removed their post and not the other one, and basically assuming that I should devote more attention to it lest a nasty post remain in that thread for 10 minutes. That's not a valuable use of an automotive message board host's time.
There may be a time when we consider hosting an off-topic discussion that is politically-oriented, but not right now. At this point, I and the other hosts who monitored that discussion need to use our time to focus on tasks that serve the primary purpose of this website.