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Re: UAW needs to catch up with the rest of US MFG. [andre1969]
by dieselone
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Nov 10, 2009 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 10, 2009 7:45 am)
you probably also need to factor holiday pay and any type of bonuses throughout the year. Holiday pay alone and possibly Sunday pay can add up to several thousand dollars. I don't know how it works with the automakers, but I know steel workers for LTV etc back in the 90's would get double time and a 1/2 on holidays plus 8 hours pay. My FIL would work a double shift ever holiday, because he couldn't pass up on the money, well that was until LTV went bankrupt.
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Re: UAW needs to catch up with the rest of US MFG. [dieselone]
by andre1969
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Nov 11, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 10, 2009 3:38 pm)
I think the warehouse workers here get double-time for weekends. Or, at least, Sundays. And in what's probably typical union fashion, the guys who get first priority for the OT aren't the best workers, but those who are good friends with the higher-ups. Although to be fair, you get that mentality everywhere, not just in unions. Heck, we have a couple people in my company who aren't worth squat. Only reason they're still around is because they're friend with or related to some higher-up.
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Contract Question
by lqqkout
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Nov 12, 2009 (7:46 pm)
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There is a discussion going on where some people are saying Ford has no sick leave. I retired from IBEW after 30 years and thought I'd go to the source. What kind of sick time are you given in your contract like after 5, 10, 15, 25 years? Not disability or workmens' comp, but sick days/leave? Thanks so much and keep up the good work. By the way, my union was bogged down representing the slackers, too. Must be a sign of the times...
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Re: Contract Question [lqqkout]
by gagrice
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Nov 12, 2009 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: lqqkout (Nov 12, 2009 7:46 pm)
Welcome to the discussion. I retired after 37 years in the Alaska Teamsters as a communications tech. So I know what you are saying is true. Back in 1970 the IBEW which was our first choice for a Union, had a lot of slackers working for the local telephone utility. The head business agent sold the 75 technicians that I was a part of down the river so we ended up Teamsters. Go figure. And we had slackers to deal with as well. I think Unions suffer more from that malady than non union shops where it is easy to can a loser.
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UAW Out To Get Ford in KC
by berri
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Nov 13, 2009 (8:51 am)
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Sounds like a bunch of angry UAW workers at that Ford Kansas City plant who now apparently want to strike the ailing company. When the workforce gets like this in a plant, its hard to fix and I'm afraid its time to shut the operation down. If they don't want to support their company's recovery, who needs them?
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Re: UAW Out To Get Ford in KC [berri]
by cooterbfd
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Nov 14, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: berri (Nov 13, 2009 8:51 am)
What possible reason do they have to want to strike??? They have a contract, and all they voted down was concessions. So, the status quo should remain in effect.
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Re: UAW Out To Get Ford in KC [cooterbfd]
by berri
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Nov 14, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 14, 2009 10:51 am)
No, they're voting to strike over local issues. They seem like one angry workforce. Can't see why Ford will want to keep them long term since they are trouble with bad attitude. Personally, I wouldn't want a vehicle from that plant right now!
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Re: UAW needs to catch up with the rest of US MFG. [andre1969]
by tedebear
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Nov 14, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 11, 2009 8:03 am)
It is possible for certain blue collar UAW people to earn 6 figures. I was one of them. However, you practically have to live at your workplace and sacrifice a lot of family time to do it. I remember one year when I had AVERAGED slightly over 80 hours per week through April. That's like working two full-time jobs. Most people would not want to do that, even for $100k+.
On the overtime selection it goes by accumulated hours. They keep a list of who was asked to work overtime (you are charged even if you say no thanks) and the person with the lowest hours gets asked first if there is overtime available for that week.
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Re: UAW Out To Get Ford in KC [cooterbfd]
by tlong
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Nov 14, 2009 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 14, 2009 10:51 am)
What possible reason do they have to want to strike??? They have a contract, and all they voted down was concessions. So, the status quo should remain in effect.
Are you trying to be logical or something?
This is the UAW, remember? 
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