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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 08, 2009 6:10 pm) Having spent 37 years in the Teamsters I can tell you the rhetoric is much tougher than the action. You are absolutely correct. This is NOT 1937 with tough guys on both sides of the fence. These are soft old featherbedders that don't want to give up the gravy train. They just lost their Jobs bank with all the jelly donuts they could eat and watching cartoons for full pay. The shock has yet to set in. They are no longer needed and they were NEVER worth what they were making. $106,000 per year for a forklift operator is INSANE. I don't care if he worked 10 hours per day 365 days per year.
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 08, 2009 7:08 pm) Please tell me you're kidding!
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Replying to: verdugo (Nov 08, 2009 8:13 pm) The coming months will be painful for many American autoworkers. Accustomed to a certain lifestyle, they will see their wages cut in half, jeopardizing second homes, college tuitions, and car payments. One blue-collar Delphi worker interviewed by the Detroit News makes $103,000 a year operating a forklift and fears the consequences if his pay is drastically reduced. Grass cutter with benefits cost Delphi: Just listen to Steve Miller a turnaround specialist who is steering Delphi's restructuring process. He exploded the myth of America's "endangered" union manufacturing jobs at his October press conference announcing Delphi's move into Chapter 11: "We cannot continue to pay $65 an hour for someone to cut the grass and remain competitive."
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 08, 2009 9:32 pm) And considering they probably got double-time for many situations, like maybe holidays and sundays? He probably pulled down less than 62 hours per week. Nice work, if you can get it! I used to work about 65 hours per week, but I didn't make anywhere near $106K per year!
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 08, 2009 9:32 pm)    Seriously though, that is very short sighted from everybody involved. I don't care how good your products are, you won't be able to price them competitively when you pay fork lift operators $106k (and don't even get me started on whether a fork lift operator is worth $106k/year.) |
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Here is an interesting video about mass production of the Model T by Ford. The UAW likes to lay claim to the 8 hour work day. It seems that Ford started it long before the UAW existed. His thinking was to have 3 shifts building his cars. He also paid higher wages than anyone else. Model T |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 10, 2009 7:45 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 10, 2009 3:38 pm)
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There is a discussion going on where some people are saying Ford has no sick leave. I retired from IBEW after 30 years and thought I'd go to the source. What kind of sick time are you given in your contract like after 5, 10, 15, 25 years? Not disability or workmens' comp, but sick days/leave? Thanks so much and keep up the good work. By the way, my union was bogged down representing the slackers, too. Must be a sign of the times...
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