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16705 messages, Last post on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:56 PM
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2009 1:11 pm) I'm all for being able to carry a laptop across the factory floor without violating union rules, but the job description of an electrician shouldn't include latrine duty. You farm that stuff out.  For fans of a shuttered Detroit, here's a time waster via Straightline.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 06, 2009 1:26 pm) There was a few times in Prudhoe I would have liked to do just that. When the toilet plugged up and spread you know what all over the floor. Our fancy title did not protect us from clean up duty. Flexibility is important in an efficiently run business. Hiring someone for 8 hours to do 2 hours work is not very efficient. If the electrician is sitting on his butt waiting for a bulb to change I see no reason he cannot perform cleanup duty. A boss should have the right to assign work as he sees fit. If the person is not capable he could be wasting time. However, there is not a lot of training needed to clean the latrine. The Alascom contract had some work rules that caused a lot of grief. It was mostly to protect the Teamster Warehousemen. They were the prima donna workers in the company.
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2009 1:11 pm) I agree. Transportation costs are low and even if unionized, they are not so militant as the UAW. The Fusion proves that Mexico can do a good job. VW and others have been making cars in Mexico for a long time. Let Ford move it all south, and then let the US show it wants those jobs. I'm sure Ford could eventually relocate to a southern state. Imagine - Boeing moved from Seattle to Chicago. What message would it send if Ford HQ moved out of Michigan to a more reasonable state? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2009 1:37 pm) Does't make much sense, particularly in the current economic market. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2009 1:11 pm) Sort of like the 1941 UAW contract when cars were built like brick sh__houses...  Not like pieces of junk today reflecting this abomination.  K.I.S.S.  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 07, 2009 5:58 am) |
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 07, 2009 5:58 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 07, 2009 9:37 am) Now we're getting somewhere! Let me know when it falls under 50 pages. Regards, OW |
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how many pages the contract should really be. I'll take a stab at it. I'm gonna say they only really need about 25 pages for the entire contract. Really, how many raspberry jelly donuts and cups of Starbuck's does it take to hammer that pup out? Is this yet another example of American excessiveness? Or does not nationality play a part in these contracts at all? The same one could be drawn up in Japan, too, you're thinking? For Nissan or Toyota or Honda? Never mind Mitsubishi's Normal, IL, plant. They're already sucked in by the UAW there.  I'm not. This is a raspberry jelly donut and Starbuck's phenomenon here. Truly and totally American, where we grow 'em big and do everything big. Like the infamous Cadidillac. The domestics are toast, except for possible Fo-Mo-Co. They're the only one I like at all right now. But they need to shed the UAW's, and quickly.
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