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Re: Great things about owning an import [srs_49] by andre1969
Nov 05, 2009 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Nov 05, 2009 3:51 am)

Ahhh yes, the old 2-speed Power Glide. I believe my dad had that tranny in his '62 Impala!
 
If it had an automatic transmission, I think the Powerglide was the only choice in 1962. There was the 3-speed Turboglide, but it had only been offered from 1957-61. It wasn't a conventional 3-speed though, but more like Buick's Dynaflow. Supposedly you couldn't even feel it shift, but it wasn't a hot performer, and early versions were troublesome.
 
I don't think you could get a 3-speed automatic in a Chevy again until 1965, and then only with a big-block...that was the THM400. You couldn't get a 3-speed automatic with a smallblock until the THM350 came out for 1969.
 
That shows how far behind the times GM could sometimes be, even back in the 1960's. In 1968 you could buy a nice, upscale Chevy Caprice, but unless you got the big block, you had to duke it out with a 2-speed automatic. Yet way back in 1960, you could get a cheap Plymouth Valiant compact with a 3-speed automatic. Chrysler's 2-speed Powerflite was technically available through 1961, but by 1960-61, I don't think very many cars were built with it.
 
I'm not sure when Ford finally phased out its 2-speed automatics, but I knew someone with a '62 Galaxie that had it. I'd guess it was dropped from larger cars fairly quickly, but lingered on in compacts for awhile. Chevy actually offered the Powerglide through 1973! By that time though, I think it was only offered with the Vega, or the 6-cyl Nova.
 
It was a good transmission though, although in later years having only two speeds hampered its fuel economy and performance, especially with smaller engines that really needed more gears. But in those days, nobody cared about fuel economy. And if they wanted performance, they got a bigger engine. And unlike today where it's a bragging right, I don't think back then people cared how many gears their transmission had. Heck, if that was the case, GM trumped them all right out the door, as the 1939 Hydramatic had 4 forward gears!
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Re: Great things about owning an import [gagrice] by lemko
Nov 05, 2009 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 6:09 am)

I could care less about the UAW or the bailout. I really really like the cars and that is the only reason I consistently buy GM. Ironically, a Corvette is one of the last cars I'd buy from GM. Now, a Cadillac or Buick with a Corvette drivetrain is exactly the kind of car I'd go for. I like a big luxurious car with stately conservative styling with the performance to back it up.
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Re: Great things about owning an import [andre1969] by lemko
Nov 05, 2009 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 05, 2009 6:15 am)

What transmission did my 1968 Buick Special Deluxe have? All I know is that it was an ultra-reliable unit and I remember getting pretty darn good fuel economy despite the car being a V-8.
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Re: Great things about owning an import [lemko] by gagrice
Nov 05, 2009 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 05, 2009 5:51 am)

ALL OF AMERICA WILL BE DETROIT!
 
The impact West of the Rockies would be negligible. The construction downturn is far more devastating than GM and C closing up shop. Ford, Toyota and the others would have NO problem picking up the void left by GM. In fact it would keep Ford and Toyota from losing so much money. You can always make a trip to China and bring back parts for your Buicks in your luggage.
 
Ford needs to get rid of their factories that are draining them with high cost UAW labor, or they will fall into the same pit as GM. You did notice how quick Toyota bailed on their only UAW factory in CA. For GM and Ford to be competitive building vehicles in the USA, they need to get labor costs UNDER Toyota and closer to Hyundai. It is obvious the UAW members are not willing to help as witnessed by the Ford contract vote.
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Re: Great things about owning an import [imidazol97] by dieselone
Nov 05, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 05, 2009 5:42 am)

Silverado trans problems
 
Suburban trans problems
 
Tahoe trans problems
 
Avalanch trans problems
 
Trailblazer transmission problems
 
I'll stop there, but the list goes on with any GM vehicle with the 4l60e trans. Many posts of people having multiple failures and many at under 10k miles and this crap has been going on for close to 20 years (just ask Andre). Google gm truck trans failures or l460e and you'll get page after page talking about what total crap this trans is.
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Re: Great things about owning an import [lemko] by dieselone
Nov 05, 2009 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 05, 2009 5:51 am)

Well, if GM' dies in two years, I suggest you buy a couple firearms, learn how to shoot, get a CCW permit, and keep the weapons close by because it's going to get pretty medieval out there! ALL OF AMERICA WILL BE DETROIT!!!
 
BS!! Keep drinking the UAW coolaid!
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Re: Great things about owning an import [dieselone] by imidazol97
Nov 05, 2009 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 05, 2009 6:28 am)

The postings on internet just over magnify the number of failures. One can't use the number or postings as an indication of the number of problems. --- at least that's what the foreign car folks keep saying starting about 2003 for HoToy when the problems with their autos started showing up in larger numbers of postings.
 
I don't follow pickup trucks, so you may be right there's a small persistent failure problem.
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Re: Great things about owning an import [gagrice] by dieselone
Nov 05, 2009 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 6:26 am)

You can always make a trip to China and bring back parts for your Buicks in your luggage.
 
ROTFLMAO!!!!! My God Gagrice, I have coffee coming out of my nose!
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Re: Great things about owning an import [lemko] by andre1969
Nov 05, 2009 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 05, 2009 6:20 am)

I think your '68 Special would have used something called a Super Turbine 300, which was a 2-speed automatic that came out in 1964 I think. It often gets confused with the Chevy Powerglide, but they're both completely different units. I'm not sure which was considered the better transmission.
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Re: Great things about owning an import [dieselone] by gagrice
Nov 05, 2009 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 05, 2009 6:30 am)

The UAW has this Congress & administration in their pocket. So they feel empowered to hold the line. All Ford was asking was to have wage parity with GM and C. Dropping the wage package to $50 per hour would save Ford about $426 million per year. That is more than all the executives at Ford make combined. Hopefully Ford would put that into design and content to keep competitive. Not to mention saving and maybe adding UAW jobs in the USA.

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