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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 04, 2009 12:37 pm) No, its a UAW mandate! FIT the knife into the back of "the man" and FINISH with a twist. 
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 04, 2009 2:50 pm) Now my dad has always driven domestics until his recent Honda purchase and he's never had a trans die either and some of his Fords have gone over 200k. No doubt GM makes some good transmissions, I think the 4 speed transaxles have been reliable. I guess the jury is still out on the newer 6 speeds.
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Replying to: verdugo (Nov 04, 2009 10:15 am) Well if my car is any indication, that's exactly what he meant. The rear window shade in my car wouldn't go up all the way (about 3/4 of the way) after a few days. I almost didn't notice it until it did go all the way up. Then I noticed a minor pull in the screen material, indicating that it had gotten caught on something. I will have them look at this in December when I take it in for it's first oil change. It's not a big deal, as I never use it anyhow.
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 04, 2009 12:34 pm) A few years ago, the construction company my uncle works for sold off a bunch of their equipment, cheap. He had a chance to get a Toyota Tundra pickup, and we talked about him giving me his '97 Silverado and us retiring my '85 Silverado. Considering the problems he's had with that truck since then (second transmission, water pump, other coolant leaks, broken belt tensioner, and now the fuel pump), this is one instance where I can honestly say I'm thankful my uncle didn't get a Toyota! I am disappointed though, because my '85 Silverado isn't going to last forever, and eventually I'm going to need a newer truck, although I'd still probably stick with used. The 4L60E spooks me enough though, that I'd be leery of any GM truck with it. How does that new 6-speed automatic they use in the trucks hold up, in comparison? Maybe by the time I'm in the market for a newer truck, there will be a good supply of those on the used market.
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 04, 2009 3:03 pm) My brother's Windstall had both the well known tranny and cylinder head failures, both under 75K. |
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 04, 2009 3:03 pm) OK, diesel, I WILL give credit where credit is due...back in the 60s and 70s, GM made 3 transmissions for passenger cars (maybe more but at least these 3), and that is the Powerglide (aka Powerslide), TH350 (Turbo-Hydramatic 350) and the TH400 (Turbo-Hydramatic 400)...the TH400 was, IMO, probably the BEST transmission ever made, bar none, and, yes, it was UAW made!!!!! The Powerglide was a simple 2 speed auto trans, D (Drive) and L (Low), used often in straight sixes (the old GM and Ford staright sixes, 250 CID, were workhorses that ran forever plus 3 days, also UAW made) and sometimes installed in stripped models with small V8s...the TH350 was usually for small V8s to midsize V8s, and big block, high HP/Tork engines used the TH400...the TH400 was indestructible, we had one in our 68 Camaro, and you could hit it with Phasers on "Kill" and it would just keep going...I wouldn't be surprised if the TH400 was used on 1/2 ton trucks and possibly 3/4 because it just was built tough... That was back in the day when we, and the UAW, made damn good products...once they dropped the TH400, and the biggest tranny was the TH350 (or its equivalent modern version), GM went in the crapper...and, yes, I know that the UAW only builds 'em, but the designers/engineers decide which ones will go in the various models...
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Replying to: marsha7 (Nov 04, 2009 4:56 pm) The challenge is to make the best cars in the world. Currently, the US doesn't have that distinction. The UAW is a HUGE part of the problem. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 04, 2009 3:56 pm) Don't know. I currently have an 07 Expedition with a 6 speed and so far so good. I'd hope GM's new 6 speed is better as they offer it with a 6.0L so I'm assuming it can handle more torque. There are two 6 speeds, 6l80 and 6l90, the 90 being h/d for 3/4 ton trucks etc. If looking used, you can always go 3/4 ton or find a 1/2 with a 6L in it, that way you know you won't get the 4l60e trans. Sure, it will be a gas pig, but gas is much cheaper than a transmission every few years. |
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Replying to: marsha7 (Nov 04, 2009 4:56 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 04, 2009 2:50 pm) I agree. Check the Honda discussions and especially the Odyssey transmissions discussion. Odyssey transmissions A lot of Odyssey owners agree about the "crap quality ... is unconscionable." Honda has had a long saga. >Honda had a problem but owned up to it QUICKLY You might want to tell that to the Odyssey folks. They're not happy. In the past Honda had extended the warranty to about 100K mi on Accords for the trans problems. That cost was born out of the extra profit they were able to make on the initial sale of the car, in my opinion. Gm and others were saddled with the extra high cost of UAW and were not able to glean a high profit margin on car sales to use as a silent warranty fund. |
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