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Re: Where do the Transmission come from? [gagrice] by roadburner
Jul 14, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 14, 2009 7:16 am)

And all this time I was hoping the six speed would have a (gear)change we could believe in...
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Re: steve [cooterbfd] by marsha7
Jul 15, 2009 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 14, 2009 12:51 pm)

OK, you've convinced me...I won't fly on a bankrupt airline OR buy a car from a bankrupt automaker...
 
BTW...this topic went from life-support to back to sprinting...I thought I might have nothing to say to no one...of course, to some, I have nothing to say anyway...
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Re: steve [marsha7] by gagrice
Jul 15, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 15, 2009 6:25 am)

Will Obama get the last word. I don't think the UAW is gonna like it.
 
WASHINGTON, July 14 (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama will say in Michigan, a state hard-hit by the downturn in the car industry, that some auto industry jobs that have been lost will not be returning.
 
"(The) hard truth is that some of the jobs that have been lost in the auto industry and elsewhere won't be coming back," Obama will say, according to prepared remarks released by the White House.
 
"They are casualties of a changing economy. And that only underscores the importance of generating new businesses and industries to replace the ones we've lost, and of preparing our workers to fill the jobs they create," Obama says in the remarks.

 
I have to wonder what those jobs may be? I am thinking learning to dig caves for US all to live in when he gets his Cap N Trade going real good. We are headed for the dark ages with all his programs. The UAW just had further to fall than most.
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Re: steve [marsha7] by cooterbfd
Jul 15, 2009 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 15, 2009 6:25 am)

".....I won't fly on a bankrupt airline OR buy a car from a bankrupt automaker..."
 
Yeah, but GM isn't bankrupt anymore
 
".....BTW...this topic went from life-support to back to sprinting...I thought I might have nothing to say to no one...of course, to some, I have nothing to say anyway..."
 
As if I don't have enough to do, more Sh&$ to read
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Re: steve [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Jul 15, 2009 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 15, 2009 12:55 pm)

That is why I finally retired. My job was getting in the way of my blogging on Edmund's.
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Priorities by marsha7
Jul 16, 2009 (3:58 am)
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Edmunds or work...Edmunds or work...Edmunds or work...well, you see me here, don't you???
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Re: Priorities [marsha7] by gagrice
Jul 16, 2009 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 16, 2009 3:58 am)

Difference is I had a good Union to protect me if I were to have been caught.
 
The Cha Ching continued even when I was producing less than I should have been. It is one of the negatives associated with Unions. Blogging on company time was my way of getting even with management for being so stupid. It was especially gratifying when the boss was sitting across the desk from me and I was typing responses and talking to him at the same time. Of course you have to be able to multitask to pull that off.
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Re: Priorities [gagrice] by cooterbfd
Jul 16, 2009 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 16, 2009 5:06 am)

".....The Cha Ching continued even when I was producing less than I should have been. It is one of the negatives associated with Unions."
 
But, on the other hand, when you produced as much as you could, your boss (or more likely your boss' boss' boss) was still unhappy, and probably wishes he could've replaced you with someone willing to pay him to let you do your job, so he could make even more money. (OK an overexaggeration) But the union kept him from doing things like that at will.
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gagrice by marsha7
Jul 16, 2009 (6:45 am)
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Multitask???...when I post here I usually forget I practice law...now, if I can only practice it enough to get it right...
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Re: Priorities [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Jul 16, 2009 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 16, 2009 5:46 am)

My last 25 years was in a Telephone Cooperative. Not for profit. So our boss was really more into politics than running an efficient phone company. Actually he was a school principle before the board of native directors gave him the job. The only reason we opted to have a Union was we all came from Alascom (AT&T) as Teamsters. We wanted to keep our retirement going. I think I could have negotiated a more lucrative deal on my own. The oil companies were paying their technicians more than we made to keep the Unions out. One of our crew left after I retired and is making $150k plus benefits working for Conoco Phillips. He will also get a Teamster retirement as he was vested in the Teamsters, IBEW and now Conoco will give him a retirement. I think he is about 52 so he has a ways to go.
 
Just to keep the record straight. We never went on strike and we never pushed beyond what the company could afford to pay. As a not for profit cooperative the financial books were open to all. Unlike the UAW that went for the throat every time and finally hit the jugular vein sending the Auto Industry into the toilet.

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