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"You are putting your life in someone else's hands with either vehicle"...yes, you are...but the differences are still too great...if the bankruptcy airplane was unsafe, the pilot and flight attendants will NOT get on the plane...if they knew the mechanics were cutting corners, they would not get on the plane... With the autoakers, we have many, MANY disgruntled workers assembling something for a company they resent...note all the union problems and acts of sabotage noted earlier in these posts...if only 20% are true, that is meaningful...plus, UAW workers simply do not have the skills of airline mechanics... Like I said, buying a seat for a flight is no big deal, as the company can simply fly their planes while in Ch 11...as for making cars in, or after, Ch 11, knowing the same idiots who put it into Ch 11 are still making the cars, is quite different, esp when there are alternatives to GM and C... It might be different if Boeing or Airbus was bankrupt, but the airline simple uses the plane, and maintains it...they don't make it...UAW make the product, and we have seen where that has taken the Big 3...that part cannot change...
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 14, 2009 6:11 am) That certainly is an overstatement. Stories of disgruntled worker sabotage have become urban legends. Indeed in the last decade and more the part time worker at Toyota Georgetown more likely would sagotage things due to their being throwaway workers never hoping to consummate their gaining a full time position as they thought when they were hired.
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| With the hold on manual transmission Camaros, I have a question. Are the failing 6 speed manual transmissions UAW made or non-Union made? | |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 14, 2009 7:16 am) It seems that doing a hard launch or using the launch control system occasionally results in a broken output shaft, Can't really fault GM for it though since Tremec makes the unit... I don't know if someone is going to be able to hang this one on UAW workers or not. It sounds like an engineering design problem or material quality control problem.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 14, 2009 7:19 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 14, 2009 6:11 am) Well, a pilot walking around an Airbus on the pre-flight isn't going to notice the crimped line that's about to fail that some disgruntled A&P mechanic bent 100 hours of flight time ago. Obama is going to Michigan. "The appearance will be picketed by angry General Motors retirees who are non-UAW. They claim over 120,000 retirees have lost billions of dollars in health care and other benefits not protected by the new GM." WKZO Lear isn't taking on the UAW sitting down: "Lear told The Wall Street Journal that it has flown salaried workers to Arlington from around the country to maintain production. The company is trying to get the UAW to cut its total hourly wage and benefit rate to $35 from $43. " Supplier's labor strife could hurt GM Arlington plant (Dallas Morning News)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 14, 2009 8:05 am) Amazing that all this change and openness that was promised doesn't give a townhall where people of all types could have input to our president. Instead it's a closed college group who gets the tickets!!!
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 14, 2009 9:51 am) |
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 9:56 am) That's a good idea.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 14, 2009 9:58 am) 
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