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It's been a long time by m4d_cow
Jun 27, 2009 (7:46 am)
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since the last time I had time to post anything here. Work consumed all my time.
 
GM is finally on ch-11, wow... big "surprise"...
 
Quoting Will Smith: Somehow "I told you so" just doesn't quite say it anymore.
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martha7... by iluvmysephia1
Jun 27, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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yep, I'm in the same boat you are as far as rock goes. Pound-pound-pound the punching bag! Come back rockylee!
 
Of course, as gagrice says, he is part of our Edmunds "family" by now, and for those newbies out there on Edmunds, you'll know when you're part of the Edmunds "family." I don't want anything bad to occur to that boy, he's fae-ma-ly. Some women(and even some men)seem to give it a faaa-mmee-muuull--llyyy twang to it, if you happen to catch my drift!
 
I spose 1,000 posts or more is a good starting point to try and guage that by.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [roadburner] by cadillacmike
Jul 01, 2009 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jun 08, 2009 2:22 pm)

What do you do, drive 50 miles per month? Go back and recheck your numbers. you are shooting your own credibility to zero with such nonsense. With that logic i could say my wife's CTS costs $15/ month in running costs, and my Eldorado is costing under $10, but it cos't more than that for her to pick up her niece and nephew for an afternoon.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [cadillacmike] by andre1969
Jul 01, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Jul 01, 2009 9:58 am)

By "running costs" he probably means maintenance/repairs. Not including gasoline, registration fees, insurance, loan payments, etc.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [cadillacmike] by jimbres
Jul 01, 2009 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Jul 01, 2009 9:58 am)

I've read enough of Roadburner's posts to know that Andre's interpretation is correct: Roadburner's numbers don't include fuel costs.
 
Remember that Roadburner was replying to Lemko's assertion that every German car is hours away from a breakdown that will bankrupt its owner.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [jimbres] by andre1969
Jul 01, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Jul 01, 2009 10:27 am)

Just for kicks, I ran the math on my '76 LeMans, which is the car I'm driving today. I figure "running costs" have come out to a whopping $15.81 per month. Of course, that's a bit deceptive since I don't drive it much. I've had it over 4 years now, and have only put around 3400 miles on it. I'm sure if I drove it all the time, it would require more. In contrast, "running costs" for my 2000 Intrepid have come out to around $73 per month. Which, over the course of almost 10 years, and 147,000 miles, ain't too bad I guess. Blowing up my a/c compressor earlier this year sure didn't help things much!
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [andre1969] by roadburner
Jul 01, 2009 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 01, 2009 10:04 am)

By "running costs" he probably means maintenance/repairs. Not including gasoline, registration fees, insurance, loan payments, etc.
 
Exactly.
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UAW after the BK by dodgeman07
Jul 12, 2009 (9:47 pm)
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Has this thread died??
 
Anyway - Am I the one who's outraged that GM emerged from BK with the UAW holding a contract that maintains the same wages/benefits for all existing employees?
 
What a joke! Concessions were for retirees/new hires only! This time next year GM will need another $50 billion to survive though we the sheeple may not hear about it. It's a recipe for failure and incredible beyond belief.
 
TARP will have to fund GM for the next 2-3 years at a minimum.
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Re: UAW after the BK [dodgeman07] by gagrice
Jul 13, 2009 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Jul 12, 2009 9:47 pm)

I think the Obama auto juggernaut has pulled a quick one on the UAW. Look at the jobs being lost in Michigan since the government took over GM & C. Those now running the GM show know that the UAW is a big stumbling block to being viable. They are going to shift the work to non UAW suppliers and offshore most of the small cars they are pushing for. Everyone is touting the G8/Caprice. How is it any better for the UAW than a Chinese Buick? Neither one creates a job in the USA.
 
Have any of the UAW shops re-opened since the big shut down? The only gotta have GM is the Camaro and it is built in Canada, by the much more pragmatic CAW Union.
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I, too, thought this by marsha7
Jul 13, 2009 (8:35 am)
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topic had died, but we just needed to give th situation time to "simmer" before more UAW crap came "down the pipe", so to speak...
 
I truly wonder if what Obama did for the UAW, will backfire at some point...he has obviously extended the Jobs Bank to include the entire remaining UAW, since I wonder who, if anybody is making cars right now...and, if someone is, who is buying them???...who is lending money to buy them???
 
And, will anybody feel comfortable buying from companies that are bankrupt, regardless of whether the gov't stands behind a GM warranty or not???
 
A simple history lesson...the UAW caused quality to drop like a rock for over 2 decades...that loss of quality caused buyers to desert the Big 3 in droves...that spiraled into the bankruptcy of GM and C, and probably soon Ford...that causes more buyers to shift to the "imports"...that drives the Big 3 (for lack of a better name) even smaller...and so on, and so on...
 
Proper history will record that the UAW killed the American auto industry...revisionist, politically correct history will record that buyers, for no reason, deserted the Big 3 for the imports, and no one, to this day, knows why...

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