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Re: Yeah, I forgot [imidazol97] by tlong
May 14, 2009 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 14, 2009 4:04 am)

I see your point. I was thinking from another point of view. I was thinking that the management would continue with 10 layers of managers while the other companies would organize the work in the plant, I mean parking lot, with a single manager who is one pay level above the highest paid worker in the parking lot. Mine was a criticism of the many managers using their very valuable MBA degrees to tell people how things should be done--all 10 of them.
 
I agree. So in our scenario the WalMart environment that mirrors GM would have 10 cart workers at high expense to retrieve carts, and many layers of gold plated management to further add to the cost.
 
The comparable company down the block that was non-union would have 2 cart workers and one manager as you suggested.
 
Both sets of problems (management AND the union) contributed to the demise of the D2.
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Re: lemko [lemko] by mikefm58
May 14, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: lemko (May 14, 2009 7:42 am)

If GM imports all of its vehicles from China, they lost me forever as a customer
 
That would be the all time dumbest move by any business and they would lose even the staunchest GM supporters.
 
I was browsing through Bass Pro shops here in Orlando last weekend and decided to look at the tags to see where things were made. 90% was made in China, with the rest between Korea, Japan, Vietnam, and even Pakistan. I found a grand total of one item made in the USA.
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Re: lemko [mikefm58] by lemko
May 14, 2009 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (May 14, 2009 8:55 am)

Just think, if all that stuff was made here - NOBODY would be out of work!
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tlong by marsha7
May 14, 2009 (10:30 am)
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The only thing the UAW would do with WalMart is to lower the overall quality of the workers, add hundreds of workers (and overhead) to accomplish a zero increase in work performed, but many more jobs "created", and then attract the lowest quality workers to perform the lowest quality work in the lowest possible quantity, thereby permanently contaminating WalMart as a viable company...that is all the UAW knows how to do, it is all they have done, and it is all they will attempt to do if they continue to exist...they do not get it, and they are incapable of getting it, because the average intelligence of the average UAW member would barely equal the IQ level of my dog...and that is an insult to my dog...
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Re: lemko [lemko] by bumpy
May 14, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: lemko (May 14, 2009 10:25 am)

No one, except the cashiers at Bass Pro Shops who wouldn't have any customers that could afford the USA-made products in the store.
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Ford & UAW by steve_ HOST
May 14, 2009 (11:32 am)
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"WILMINGTON, Delaware (Reuters) - Ford Motor Co's (NYSE:F - News) restructuring is on track to bring a profit as soon as 2011, without the need for emergency government bridge loans, executives told stockholders on Thursday at the automaker's annual meeting.
 
Ford shareholders also approved the company's funding plan for a healthcare trust for United Auto Workers union retirees... "
 
Yahoo
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Re: lemko [lemko] by circlew
May 14, 2009 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (May 14, 2009 10:25 am)

If the idiots at the D3 invested the wasted money on UAW contracts into flexible and highly automated plants and produced cars better than the rest at far less cost, all cars WOULD have been made here.
 
But sadly greed begot more greed and hence, failure.
 
Regards,
OW

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