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Replying to: PMO (May 04, 2009 12:36 pm) |
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Replying to: kipk (May 04, 2009 2:16 pm)
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I did a walk on our block in Southern California yesterday and did an informal inventory of every vehicle I could see in driveways and parked on the street. This is an upper-middle class neighborhood. It's a good example of why the UAW, and GM particularly is failing. I've bolded the vehicles that I believe are UAW made. I'll put some comments and observations at the end of the list. Make/Vehicle - Type - Count Vans Chevy Van - van - 1 Dodge Caravan - van - 1 GMC Vandura? - van - 1 Honda Odyssey - van - 2 Mazda5 - Micro van - 1 Toyota Sienna - van - 1 Sedans Acura TL - sedan - 1 Audi A4 - sedan - 1 BMW 3series - sedan - 1 Chevy Impala - sedan - 1 Honda Accord - sedan - 1 Honda Civic - sedan - 2 Infiniti G37 - sedan - 1 Lexus ES350 - sedan - 1 Lexus LS4xx - sedan - 2 Mercedes sedans (various) - 2 Nissan Altima - sedan - 1 Nissan Maxima - sedan - 2 Toyota Corolla - sedan - 1 Toyota Camry - sedan - 3 VW Jetta - sedan - 2 VW Passat - sedan - 1 Volvo S40 - sedan - 1 Hatchbacks Chrysler PT Cruiser - hatchback - 1 Lexus SC430 - hatchback - 1 Mitsubishi Eclipse - hatchback - 1 Scion XB - hatchback- 1 Toyota Prius - hatchback - 2 SUVs Acura MDX - SUV - 2 Ford Explorer - SUV - 1 Ford Expedition - SUV - 1 Hyundai Santa Fe - SUV - 1 Jeep Patriot - SUV - 1 Lincoln Navigator - SUV - 2 Porsche Cayenne - SUV - 1 Trucks Chevy 1500 - truck - 2 Chevy S10 - truck - 1 Dodge Ram - truck - 2 Ford F150 - truck - 2 Sports cars Chevy Corvette - sports car - 1 Some statistics: Total vehicles - 54 Percent UAW made - 33% UAW percent (sedans and hatchbacks) - 7% UAW percent (SUVs and Trucks) - 75% Foreign nameplates - 65% US nameplates (incl Volvo) - 35% Observations: Only 1 sedan out of 24 is a US nameplate All of the trucks were US nameplates No Cadillacs or Buicks Surprisingly no CRVs or RAV4s (but there are some on the next block) Percent of GM vehicles - 13% Fewer Accords and Camrys than I expected The US makers really need to learn to make some good sedans. Nobody is buying them around here.
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Replying to: tlong (May 04, 2009 11:13 pm) I'd go take a survey but it's after midnight.  In the news: "UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said workers will receive about 75% of regular pay, but added, "It's certainly not a paycheck." The additional worker and dealer sacrifices come after the UAW agreed last week to accept stock in a reorganized Chrysler in lieu of cash payments to fund a retiree health care (VEBA) fund and freeze wages through September 2011. Hourly retirees have expressed worry that their health care benefits may be cut. "This VEBA is going to be on life support initially," Gettelfinger said, "but if" Fiat Chief Executive Sergio "Marchionne comes in here and turns this company around, then we will be in good shape." Chrysler workers and sellers to feel pinch (Detroit Free Press)
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Replying to: motorcity6 (May 04, 2009 9:48 am) Meanwhile Ford's success will bring the wrath of govt down on them, for they can't be allowed to succeed w/o some Tarp.. The UAW members read only the $$$$s on their paychecks, and their writing skills could be limited to endorsement of the paycheck..The balance of the time they exercise the use of an "X".. " Gotta agree with all of that! Especially this. If Ford doesn't accept some TARP and let Obama in the door, then Ford will be in competition with the government, proving their own agenda, as well as the other auto mfg.. Government can print the money, continue to Subsidize GM, sell cars at a loss, and undercut Ford pricing until they are forced to take the money and be part of the government takeover of big business. Scary! Kip |
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Replying to: tlong (May 04, 2009 11:13 pm)
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Replying to: chetj (May 04, 2009 7:04 pm) That really sucks! Let's hope your management has other avenues in mind, and a good marketing strategy. Maybe the employees can do some brain storming and develop ideas to help the company revamp and succeed! My next door neighbor has a small trucking business that basically shuttled merchandise between suppliers and the airlines and the Ford plant. He has managed to weather the storms of Airline restructuring, Ford Plant shutting down, and various other ups and downs in that type business. He is a survivor that simply refuses to give up. I've seen larger truck lines fold and come back under different names. Many or most of the former employees retained their jobs. There was one small restaurant (among many) that was open Monday thru Saturday and was basically supported by employees of Ford and Ford suppliers. The restaurant was called "The Dwarf House". They had good food and developed an especially good chicken sandwich. Not only were the Ford employees supporting him, but over time, so were the general population of the area, and the folks such as myself. In spite of all the turmoil of the times, the business grew into "Chick-Fil-A". Many others folded, but were quickly replaced by something else that hired people. The original Dwarf House is still there as far as I know. I haven't been there in a while, because the small town I live in, has a Dwarf House and a Chick-fil-A store. Sometimes we have to uproot and move to an area that is more prosperous or even change careers. It isn't easy, but the strong survive. Those that mindlessly do as told, will have a tough time in the future.  Kip
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