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Replying to: PMO (May 04, 2009 5:08 am) That is just not true. Canada Area Total 9,984,670 km2 (2nd) 3,854,085 sq mi Water (%) 8.92 USA Total area 9,826,630 km2 3,794,066 sq mi Water (%) 6.76 If not for the water you would be smaller than the USA. Sorry Charlie. It is that fuzzy math that has gotten the Domestic auto industry in trouble. I guess you feel bad that I do not include the CAW in my tirades against the Auto workers. I don't consider the CAW quite as bad as the UAW. Though I consider the Canadian government worse than the US government, and I am not a big fan of ours. Don't try to push your socialist system onto US. Universal Health care is a disaster.
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Replying to: gagrice (May 04, 2009 4:56 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 04, 2009 5:27 am) |
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If you feel this way I too feel your pain, but at 70 and retired from GM after 32 years 15 years ago ,I hate to see the population of USA in the dark forever ,please trust me I am not playing in your sand box. I am trying to inform you of how the world is viewing you in the USA . for you were the WORLD leaders in Manufacturing and it is like something has pulled the heart out of AMERICA. PS if you go to WIKI and read Canada Only General Motors Cars ,you might update my contention that Canada built not invented the Cadillac, my guess if you read this you will find a number of things Kids don't care about but it is your History and Canada has always been there to support the USA even if it took you almost 4 years to get into WW2. Now what kid would;d care about that . I too am ex Navy I served in 1957 so go figure how old I am at 17 I enlisted |
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Replying to: steve_ (May 01, 2009 10:15 am) “There’s fear of what lies ahead. These people thought they would have a job for life, now they have to go through this,” Cebina said. UAW is last group of people in the U.S. who "finally" have come to realization that rest of us found over last couple decades. Career writers in the media (magazines, newspapers, tv, etc) have been warning since at least early 90's that workers should expect to have to change jobs/careers many times in their working lives.
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Replying to: PMO (May 04, 2009 5:28 am) When was the last time the USA was a bully to Canada. We should have been when you destroyed our lumber industry by subsidizing your logging. We lost a lot of good paying jobs to Canadian subsidized lumber.
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Replying to: xrunner2 (May 04, 2009 6:12 am) When I went to work in 1961 for Pacific Telephone that was the belief. You worked at the phone company till you were 65 and got a company pension. I was 18 and it did not take many years to see that whole idea unraveling. AT&T had a monopoly that kind of paralleled the US government. They were guaranteed 5.2% profit, no matter how much they spent on labor. So having twice as many workers as needed was not a financial problem. In the 1970s when AT&T was under the gun and headed for divestiture the story changed. When forced to make money the excess workforce became a liability. It just took the D3 longer to come to the same conclusion with their top heavy UAW workforce. AT&T management was wiser than GMs and they are now doing quite well with a much leaner workforce. Even our bloated governments at the city, county, state and Federal level are going to have to get rid of redundant positions or face the consequences. They need to start with the state and Federally sponsored colleges and Universities if the Feds are going to pick up the tab for everyone to get a college degree. |
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See just my point in Canada we are now in the $10.30 range and going to $11.00 next year What good is $11 per hour when the government takes half right off the old paycheck? My folks moved to Toronto in the 1960s thinking it was utopia. They left in 6 months as the taxes left them with a lower standard of living than they had in the States. The only reason my aunt and uncle stayed was he was a big time real estate mogul in Toronto. You can have your year wait for a hip replacement. Or even worse. Our health care may be expensive in the USA, it is FAR SUPERIOR to what is offered in Canada. The UAW retirees are so spoiled they would revolt if forced to use a Canadian style health care system. You really need to do some research. I am beginning to think bmgpe is correct. Or are you really Wagoner spending your days blogging since losing his job?
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