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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 28, 2009 6:44 pm) Not really. It did not get close to EPA estimates for mileage around town. It was ok on the highway. I think it was mostly the crap ethanol gas in CA. I did not like the auto stop feature as it was dangerous on slippery surfaces. Just glad I found a happy new owner. Much better electronics than the Toyota. Probably made in China. I think the GMT-900 is the best made truck in the world. Again, that is nothing to brag about. I think all trucks have taken a dump over the last 10 years. They are just foo foo trucks for kids and wannabes. I want a solid built truck with strong bumpers. Not some plastic piece of crap truck. That I blame on management and not the UAW. Just so you know. |
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 28, 2009 7:05 pm) That's what we have been trying to tell you. The other companies left long ago. The migration started in the 1950s. The UAW workers should be happy they lasted the longest. Now it is their turn to look for a new career as so many others have done before them. If I would have stayed with the AT&T back in 1970 instead of quitting and going to Alaska for RCA, I would have been given an early retirement in the late 1980s. Those guys are all having to do WalMart greeter jobs to supplement their meager Pensions from AT&T. One of the guys I worked with got pushed out with 17 years service and when he turned 65 got $207 per month pension. He was 2nd level management at AT&T in their Denver Toll Center. He gets 10 times that with 24 years in the Teamsters. He is the one that just retired at 75 years of age. The UAW guys getting the golden parachutes should be counting their blessings. Most losing their jobs were not so lucky. how is this small business owner going to compete with the giant names at such a disadvantage? By giving good service to customers. Just like our little hardware store. It is more expensive. It is also 12 miles closer to home. We also do 90% of our grocery shopping at the local market that is not affiliated with any of the chains. They have good produce and that is the bulk of our diet.
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2009 7:58 pm) 50's??? Where did they go in the 50's??? People in the south were still driving horse and buggie and going to the rest room meant going out the backdoor outside in a wooden shack.  I thought Fintail said it started in the 1970's???  The UAW workers should be happy they lasted the longest. Now it is their turn to look for a new career as so many others have done before them. If I would have stayed with the AT&T back in 1970 instead of quitting and going to Alaska for RCA, I would have been given an early retirement in the late 1980s. Those guys are all having to do WalMart greeter jobs to supplement their meager Pensions from AT&T. One of the guys I worked with got pushed out with 17 years service and when he turned 65 got $207 per month pension. He was 2nd level management at AT&T in their Denver Toll Center. He gets 10 times that with 24 years in the Teamsters. He is the one that just retired at 75 years of age. So are we just going to roll over and die and allow this to happen??? Glad you made the right moves. It could of been the total opposite and you could of gotten screwed over worse if that was possible. Sounds like your AT&T friends got a screw job and I'm happy things worked out. Hope the union workers at AT&T have a better agreement now. The UAW guys getting the golden parachutes should be counting their blessings. Most losing their jobs were not so lucky. They are but most aren't happy about it. They wanted there kids and family to have the same opportunities as them. We are suppose to progress and not regress. As Duncan Hunter said it's a national security issue.  By giving good service to customers. Just like our little hardware store. It is more expensive. It is also 12 miles closer to home. We also do 90% of our grocery shopping at the local market that is not affiliated with any of the chains. They have good produce and that is the bulk of our diet. You might be able to do that with a hardware store but you will not survive in technology sectors like Tractors, Cars, Computers, etc by only having good customer service. If that was the case then Saturn who always ranked at the top wouldn't be getting the axe!  -Rocky P.S. I thought Steak was the bulk of your diet??? 
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gagrice is the farmer, not the cattleman, thus he eats like a farmer.  You aren't a vegetarian though, are ya gagrice? And did everyone catch this news today, UAW workers for Chrysler actually decided to take less pay and benefits? rock, could this really be true? It now sounds like creditors are forgiving some $5B large of Chrysler debt. Daimler is bought off and gone, and Fiat is still talking to them to strike a deal before their April 30 deadline. tick..tock...tick...tock. Things are looking up for Chrysler, at least more up than they looked like a week ago.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 28, 2009 8:41 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 28, 2009 8:12 pm) |
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I would like to first say that I am sorry for those that have lost their jobs. My family in Detroit has been auto workers for many generations. I would like to share with you all a discussion we had at our last family reunion in 2002 there in Detroit. As I sat on the porch. I listened to my family brag about how great their vehicles were that they were building. And, then another family member would brag about how great the vehicles were that they were building. This went on for a good 2 hours. disputing on how great the ford was compared to Chevy at every level. The pride that they had was just dripping wet. And I was getting soaked. However, What they did not know. was, that I was the owner of a Ford F-150 .And, that I owned a Chevy before that. They were always breaking down. and, always at the most unpredictable times. I told my family that I was tired of the constant repair costs. I asked them. When are those people that run GM or Ford going to start building a great vehicle that is dependable in a good way. What I had was a hunk of junk! They should have rolled it into a junk pile after building it.And, that if something did not change where they worked. They will be losing many customers. Including me! I am sorry if this ruffles a few feathers out there. But, This was something that I felt needed to be said in hopes that things would be turned around for the better. Case in point! Take a good look at that new Chevy with the duramax and allison tranny. Sounds good huh? Then look at the so called leather interior. WTH? Only the front seats are leather? not the back seats The front seats headrests are plastic? And, they want $60,000 bucks for this? I don't think so! I hope they quit cutting corners on quality and start building fine vehicles again. American auto workers have always been the best and most reliable consumers of their own products. Who is going to buy all of those vehicles if all the workers are unemployed. I'll stay with Toyota! Why? you may ask! They hired many of the 1800 unemployed auto workers that were laid off by GM. Here is a message to those that are in charge of running those Companys. You have been kicked to the curb by me until you can show me that you are what you say you are. And quit cutting corners. Americans deserve better than that from an American made automobile manufacturer. AND, KICK THAT UAW TO THE CURB TOO! They are hurting the auto industry. can you not see that? Here is a challenge for you to chew on. Lets see what you got! We Americans want a 3/4 ton truck that gets 50 miles to the gallon hwy. 40 city. and, keep the price to around $23,000 Think your up to it? Or, is that too much to ask from a Company that Brags about being the best in the auto industry? You have some of the most gifted and. talented minds working there. LET THEM SHOW THEIR STUFF! This challenge is for FORD, GM, DODGE.
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