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Re: rocky [gagrice] by rockylee
Apr 28, 2009 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2009 10:27 am)

What is this gentlemens occupation? That might tell the story behind his feelings....
 
-Rocky
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Re: Who's Looking Out For the "Little Guy?" [lemko] by rockylee
Apr 28, 2009 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 28, 2009 10:47 am)

You hit the nail on the head once again lemko.
 
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Re: And to add further to that comment... [rockylee] by tlong
Apr 28, 2009 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 28, 2009 12:13 am)

I agree Wagoner made some mistakes BUT it's not his fault that he was competing on a UNLEVEL playing field. If we would of TARIFFED imports it would of solved the uncompetitive advantages of currency manipulation and 3rd world labor. We held the trump cards and we still lost the game. Put Richard G. Wagoner in charge on a level playing field and he will succeed. He proved it in China. They are all competing on a level playing field over there.
 
Rocky, you AGREED with most of my points! You are even brighter than I thought!
 
Well Bill Gates competed and won with the current playing field. Steve Jobs is competing in the current playing field. Warren Buffet competes on today's playing field. Even John Deere, a successful UAW company, competes on today's playing field. I stand by the statement that Wagoner sucked. Life doesn't give you level playing fields; you make it what it will be. Those other companies didn't whine and complain, they just made it happen. Unlike GM.
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Re: Who's Looking Out For the "Little Guy?" [greatlakesjr] by rockylee
Apr 28, 2009 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: greatlakesjr (Apr 28, 2009 11:52 am)

Well when you have a rigged system to give you a clear advantage why wouldn't you want to work with the company that is winning on the unlevel playing field. Take away the currency manipulation, unfree trade, national healthcare advantage for 50% of there cars and 8 years of hiding recalls and Toyota is in the same boat as the Big 3.
 
-Rocky
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Re: Well... [lemko] by tlong
Apr 28, 2009 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 28, 2009 6:37 am)

If he's a bum who comes in drunk every other day, I would fire him for the good of the company. His wage rate would depend on his job and skill level.
 
You must not be pro union. They don't believe in differentiating for skill levels. There might be brown-nosing going on. It should be seniority ONLY.
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Re: And to add further to that comment... [tlong] by rockylee
Apr 28, 2009 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Apr 28, 2009 6:48 pm)

Rocky, you AGREED with most of my points! You are even brighter than I thought!
 
Yeah we do once in a blue moon.
 
Well Bill Gates competed and won with the current playing field. Steve Jobs is competing in the current playing field. Warren Buffet competes on today's playing field. Even John Deere, a successful UAW company, competes on today's playing field. I stand by the statement that Wagoner sucked. Life doesn't give you level playing fields; you make it what it will be. Those other companies didn't whine and complain, they just made it happen. Unlike GM.
 
I guess I spoke too soon. The playing field is unlevel. The companies and people you mentioned outsourced millions of jobs to gain an unfair advantage against some small firm trying to grow his/her company here in the U.S. I think competition is good for the consumer and advancement but how is this small business owner going to compete with the giant names at such a disadvantage???
 
-Rocky
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Re: Well... [tlong] by rockylee
Apr 28, 2009 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Apr 28, 2009 6:57 pm)

That is not true.
 
-Rocky

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