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Re: rocky [rockylee] by gagrice
Apr 28, 2009 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 28, 2009 7:59 am)

They were crap which I agree. I owned a GMT-800 Chevy Silverado Sidestep and I can say as a owner I wasn'tsuper impressed with the fit and finish of those trucks. My dads 98' was better made and the 2007+ GMT-900's are light year ahead of any truck IMHO on the road.
 
Why should I believe the 2007 and newer trucks are any better built. I drove the new GMC and it was noisy by my standards. Turned me off before we had 2 blocks. My experience parallels yours and your dad's. My 98 Suburban built in Mexico was much better built than my UAW built GMC 2005 Sierra.
 
It is laughable that you still live in the past. Did some UAW workers show up drunk at work, you betchya. Does it occur now? Not without consquences. It is a whole different world than the 1970's and 80's
 
GM and the UAW are paying now for the sins in their past. That is just the way it is. It took me 30 years to forgive Toyota for their shoddy engine in the 1964 Toyota Land Cruiser. Why should the consumer treat GM any differently? Personally I don't think that GM has gotten better. I think Toyota starting with their new models in 2007 came down to GM level. The 2008 Sequoia and Tundra are not only ugly, they are not in a league with the 2007 models. I deal fairly and have given my share to GM.
 
If that is the case then why is GM the #1 brand sold in the U.S.
 
If you think going from 50% to 18% market share in two decades is a bragging right. I'm happy for you. They will be lucky to have 15% by the end of the decade.
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Re: rocky [greatlakesjr] by gagrice
Apr 28, 2009 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: greatlakesjr (Apr 28, 2009 8:12 am)

Frankly, I have issues with unions (and I live in Michigan) and, all else being equal, would rather support a right-to-work state that employs Americans not beholden to unions anyway.
 
That would go a long ways in restoring a good work ethic and jobs to one of the hardest hit states in this recession. Good to see not everyone in Michigan feels the rest of US owe them a living.
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Who's Looking Out For the "Little Guy?" by lemko
Apr 28, 2009 (10:47 am)
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With more globalization, the larger and more powereful these multinational corporations get. And the more demanding of their employees they get. You don't like the way they do things, their attitude is "Too bad! Maybe we'll have to move even more of our company elsewhere?" It is ridiculous that some naive people believe most unions are causing wages to become too high and "uncompetitive". The only reason these large companies have some of their operations in the USA, Canada etc. is because it is too expensive and/or inconvenient for them to have EVERYTHING overseas where labor is cheaper.
 
A good example is Wal~Mart. They rely on all their retail locations being close to their consumer. So they can't move everything overseas or they probably would have!
 
Big business keeps their interests at the forefront, maximizes THEIR profits, and keeps the little guy down.
 
So the only protection the average hourly worker, the "little guy," has is if he or she belongs to a UNION!
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Re: Who's Looking Out For the "Little Guy?" [lemko] by lokki
Apr 28, 2009 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 28, 2009 10:47 am)

... the only protection the average hourly worker, the "little guy," has is if he or she belongs to a UNION!
 
the only protection the average hourly worker, the "little guy," has is if he or she belongs to a UNION! gets an education!
 
There. Fixed it for you.
 
There will always be jobs for people who have something to contribute to a company.
 
The Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the following for March 2009 (Seasonally Adjusted):
 
Educational Level---------------Unemployment Rate
Less than HS-------------------- 13.3%
HS Degree------------------------ 9.0%
Some College------------------- 7.2%
BA Degree or higher---------- 4.3%
 
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm
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Re: rocky [lemko] by greatlakesjr
Apr 28, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 28, 2009 9:13 am)

Really? I don't work for any car company and neither do my friends or family.
 
Yes, that was an exaggeration but when you get away from the midwest, the abundance of foreign cars vs. domestic is quite pronounced.
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Re: Who's Looking Out For the "Little Guy?" [lemko] by greatlakesjr
Apr 28, 2009 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 28, 2009 10:47 am)

So the only protection the average hourly worker, the "little guy," has is if he or she belongs to a UNION!
 
Yeah, right! That's the attitude that's put my state (Michigan) in the toilet these days. I think if you polled the non-union auto workers from the right-to-work States about which companies they would rather be working for right now, they might have a different take on things. While all autos in general are down in sales, I'd cast my lot with Toyota, Honda, and other non-domestic.
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Re: rocky [greatlakesjr] by lemko
Apr 28, 2009 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: greatlakesjr (Apr 28, 2009 11:45 am)

I'd say Philadelphia is a good distance from the Midwest and the ratio is more like 70:30 in favor of domestics.

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