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iluv and junkyard by marsha7
Apr 26, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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That is why our friend really has no comprehension of business reality...just make them pay more into the fund, as tho money grows on trees...strike for more, but the company is going under...use the force of gov't to make them pay the UAW more, as tho there is any money left at all...the simple fact of youth and growing up in an entitlement welfare (UAW) family means that they just think that checks just come in the mail from nowhere...GM is going under, and they simply do NOT get it...the idiots in the UAW almost make the mentally handicapped look intelligent...they have this "pay for nothing in retirement" as tho it is the minimum for working, when nobody has that kind of pension, but if you can say "welfare mentality" you have the lack of intelligence and the attitude of your UAW member...
 
Ten years from now they still won't get it...
 
Junkyard: "The Japanese use a lot of the same suppliers as the big 3, but their quality demands are higher and their parts cost a little more in some cases to build."...are you saying that Toy and Hon may buy dashboards from Johnson Controls, just like GM, but they have Johnson make their parts to a higher quality standard???...if true, I am surprised...I did not know that suppliers are simply making components at different standards for different makers...
 
Maybe someone working for a supplier can verify what they do, or how they cut corners, depending on who the buyer is...
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Re: Delphi BK judge would not tear up UAW contract [imidazol97] by rockylee
Apr 26, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 26, 2009 9:13 am)

Delphi-Low End entry level $14 an hour Top Wage $17 at the end of the contract. Skilled Trades Top paid skilled trades on 3rd shift i.e. Machine Repairman or Tool & Die $38 an hour. My step-dad when he is on 3rd shift as a Millwright makes $37 an hour or a dollar less than Gary did many years ago. My step-dad went to college for 4 years to get his journeymans card. His benefits and retirment are crap compared to the what the old timers got before they left but that is life and it's better pay than a lot of jobs.
 
GM's two tiered wage scale will start UAW workers out at $14/hr and they will top out at $16.50 an/hr. if and when they hire again. I'm not sure what the UAW workers hired in 2006 to replace the higher paid veterans will top out. They started out at $18 an hour. I believe dad said they can top out at $22 an hour or something but there benefits will never be what his was. The top pay right now is $28 an/hr. as some of the old timers are still employed. I fully expect another round of buyouts at GM to get the old timers to leave. Delphi offered a round of buyouts last month and a lot more took it than what they expected.
 
I hope that breaks it down a little pal.
 
-Rocky
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Re: iluv and junkyard [marsha7] by rockylee
Apr 26, 2009 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Apr 26, 2009 6:37 pm)

JCI will make anything you want Marsha7 as long as you are willing to pay for it. I can verify that pal.
 
-Rocky
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Re: Obama's Car Czar's Mission--UAW [imidazol97] by rockylee
Apr 26, 2009 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 26, 2009 9:47 am)

Thanks for taking that one imidazol97. It's more credible coming from someone who is unbiased.
 
-Rocky
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Re: rocky [marsha7] by rockylee
Apr 26, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Apr 26, 2009 1:53 pm)

How much labor and parts do you think it costs GM to build a $55K Cadillac STS??? I am willing to bet my left arm that they can fully assemble a STS for well under $20K a unit. I know about 5 years ago they could make a $35K truck for about $14K. Remember those featherbedders you talk so much smack about are only 8.4% of the cost if it is even that high now thus I think you need to pull your head out of the sand and re examine what you are ranting about. It is not the UAW workers fault that a Caddy STS depreciates in half. Maybe if GM would of put a top notch interior in it like they have the CTS and put the ULTRA V8 instead of the old Northstar it might hold it's residual a lot better??? Have you thought about that??? I doubt it!!!! It's the UAW workers fault because he designed and engineered it right???? He told Johnson Controls to cut corners on the fit and finish and quality of plastic to be used right??? Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepers Marsh7!!!!!! You need to pour yourself a drink and chill!!!!
 
-Rocky
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GM to announce brand changes, restructuring moves by rockylee
Apr 26, 2009 (7:15 pm)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_plan
 
-Rocky
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Progress? by steve_ HOST
Apr 26, 2009 (7:25 pm)
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"We commend the UAW's leadership for their endless determination and perseverance in reaching this tentative agreement," Chrysler said in a statement."
 
Chrysler, unions make progress as deadline nears (Reuters)
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Re: Progress? [steve_] by rockylee
Apr 26, 2009 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 26, 2009 7:25 pm)

That is good news
 
-Rocky

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