United Automobile Workers of America (UAW)

2009 Honda Civic
 
into this
 

2010 Kia Forte sedan
 
Well, and it it's a big well, there are some strong similarities there! Once again, I think Kia has out-styled Honda and easily out-styled the Toyota Corolla with this new Forte sedan. The new Koup is awesome looking, too. And Kia has a better Warranty than either Honda or Toyota. The only Toyota I can look at is the Scion lineup, unless you count an occasional stare at the Yaris sedan. And that look is usually pretty short.
 
But the point I'm making is that I always appreciate the enthusiast's design details Kia pens in to their bodystyles. I even noticed it when they were taking the Civic on with their 1998-2001 style Kia Sephia, of which I partook, BTW.

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• cooterbfd (Apr 11, 2009 3:06 am)
  • joem5 (Apr 11, 2009 5:44 pm)

Replying to: dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 7:28 am)

The DTS looks like the kind of car I would buy too! By the way, I LOVED the car Jerry bought for his Pop! If my son ever did something that awesome for me, I'd be ultra emotional and crying, "Thank you! I love you, son!"

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• dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 9:29 am)
  • lemko (Apr 10, 2009 9:32 am)
    • dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 9:41 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 10, 2009 9:05 am)

Replying to: dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 7:25 am)

Sounds like the juvenile value system of bigger is better. Noone would want a civic then would they?
 
Malibu Torque 160 lb/ft 4500
Accord Torque 162 lb/ft 4400
 
Big whoop difference.
 
Malibu Hp 169 6400 rpm
Accord Hp 190 7000 rpm
 
I wonder what the hp is for the Accord at 6400.
Most people aren't going to drive the cars screaming at 6400 rpm or 7000 rpm
 
Please read my post to which you replied. That will be my response.

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• dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 9:39 am)
  • cooterbfd (Apr 11, 2009 3:22 am)
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• dieselone (Apr 10, 2009 9:55 am)

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• lemko (Apr 10, 2009 9:32 am)
  • dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 9:41 am)

Replying to: dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 7:45 am)

What the heck do you have?!?!? $1,000 for SNOW TIRES?!?!? Are you driving one of those big dump trucks they use in the West Virginia strip mines? Snow tires are about $200 a pair, if that!
 
You think a Grand Marquis is a luxury car? A Grand Marquis is just an inexpensive full-size car. Heck, I can easily do a U-turn with a Grand Marquis on a crowded city street with no problem.

Replying to: dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 9:29 am)

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• dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 9:41 am)

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• cooterbfd (Apr 11, 2009 3:22 am)
  • dbostondriver (Apr 11, 2009 4:43 am)
    • cooterbfd (Apr 13, 2009 1:35 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Apr 10, 2009 9:32 am)

Hey, to each his own. You can fit a lot of bodies in that trunk.
 
I got to hand it to you though Lemko, unlike some other GM defenders you do make good points. You own what you defend and you don't make excuses for Astro vans. You are true GM fan, you appreciate their best product.
 
All though I am against any loans to the D3, I do hope that they can make competitive cars and Corvettes with nice interiors. The next generation Malibu should be a world beater with direct injection.
I think Ford has made many good steps. If only they would revamp the Explorer.

Replying to: dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 7:55 am)

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• dbostondriver (Apr 10, 2009 9:58 am)