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The Mitsubishi Lancer is by iluvmysephia1
Apr 21, 2007 (4:08 pm)
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indeed built by Mitsubishi in Japan, yes.
 
No, I am not one to take human rights issues in to play when making an economic decision involving my wife and I. That is, I will admit that, if I allowed myself to get emotionally involved enough through research, as you said you did, I might change my mind. I got good usage out of both of my Kia's and the service department treated me very well at both dealerships I went to for service.
 
I have not heard of Mitsubishi mistreating their employees at all. If anyone has input regarding that, do fire away. I remain very impressed with their automotive product, Warranty and their organization and hard-work ethic I see put in to place. Quite impressive.
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Re: The Mitsubishi Lancer is [iluvmysephia1] by rockylee
Apr 22, 2007 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 21, 2007 4:08 pm)

You won't have to worry about unfair or abusive treatment problems in Japan. You can have a worry free driving experience as that concern isn't one.
 
I hope we continue to get updates on the Georgetown plant going UAW.
 
Rocky
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Edwards speaks to Detroit Democrats, calls for U.S. to leave Iraq by rockylee
Apr 22, 2007 (6:19 pm)
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He also said that Detroit and Michigan could be a hub to develop environmentally friendly fuels to power the automobiles of the future.
 
"I don't want to see the fuel efficient cars in the world built someplace else," he said. "They ought to be built right here in Detroit and the United States of America by UAW workers."
 
Edwards said he would oppose trade agreements that would harm U.S. workers and said he opposes the pending trade agreement between the U.S. and South Korea.
 
He said he supports laws making it easier for unions to organize because "it's absolutely crucial to maintain and strengthen and grow the middle class in this country that we strengthen the right to organize. That we strengthen the power of unions to have a level playing field in the negotiating process. I think this is important for America's economic security."
 
He said as president he would use his bully pulpit "to explain to America what the union movement has meant in the history of this country."

 
http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070422/NATION/704220324&- - - theme=Nation-Iraq
 
Rocky
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I knew that this thread would go here by lokki
Apr 23, 2007 (12:08 pm)
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Any UAW thread has to fall into politics. The UAW has no long term viability without political support.
 
Let's just kill this thread before it descends into a paid political announcement.
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Re: I knew that this thread would go here [lokki] by gagrice
Apr 23, 2007 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: lokki (Apr 23, 2007 12:08 pm)

Me too, I resisted the temptation.
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I guess I can't resist... by grbeck
Apr 23, 2007 (1:45 pm)
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...the article has some real howlers, but I guess that Mr. Edwards had to play to his audience. On the other hand, if he really believes what he said...
 
The article contains this snippet: He said as president he would push his plan for universal health care for Americans, paying for some of the cost by ending Bush's tax breaks for individuals making more than $200,000 annually.
 
Let's see...where do most of the people who make more than $200,000 annually live?
 
New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston...in other words, the bluest parts of Blue America.
 
In those areas, given the already high levels of state and local taxation, and sky-high housing costs, a $200,000 annual income for a family of four isn't necessarily the ticket to Easy Street. Price a decent house in the Los Angeles metropolitan area some time.
 
Yet Mr. Edwards apparently wants to raise their taxes, even though, in the wake of the 2004 election, Blue State residents were complaining that they already pay a disproportionate share of federal expenditures. (Maybe the real problem is that people don't rationally think about the impact of federal policy, or they are dumb enough to believe that the government will tax only Republicans making six-figure annual salaries.)
 
The article directly quotes him here: "I don't want to see the fuel efficient cars in the world built someplace else," he said. "They ought to be built right here in Detroit and the United States of America by UAW workers."
 
I'm sure his first act as president will be to repeal those federal laws that prevent GM and Ford from building high-quality, fuel-efficient cars here in America.
 
Wait, there are no laws that prevent them from doing this right now. Never mind...
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Re: I guess I can't resist... [grbeck] by gagrice
Apr 23, 2007 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: grbeck (Apr 23, 2007 1:45 pm)

OK, maybe he will mandate that all Toyota, Honda & Nissan workers in the USA become UAW members. I believe that Mr. Clinton ran on a similar platform of health care for all. Put Mrs. Clinton in charge while he had a Democratic Congress. What happened is health care went up and less people are covered. Mr. Edwards is a prime example of why health care is so expensive. He got rich on malpractice suits.
 
Rocky, Edward's would go where ever and tell who ever will listen just what they are wanting to hear. Then go back to his mansion and laugh at the folks he has fooled. The pickin's are mighty slim for 2008. I will probably only go vote to try and keep one of them from winning.
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Re: I guess I can't resist... [gagrice] by rockylee
Apr 23, 2007 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 23, 2007 3:31 pm)

Edwards, is a union mans president. He's more for the working people than any other candidate running. (My opinion) He has plans to help strengthen the Unions in this country and make crossing a picket line illegal. I believe he will not do anything to ruin UAW jobs like some of the others running. His investment plan in alternative energy is to give the automakers more than a billion dollars. This doesn't include the billions more he will invest in other area's to get these alternative energy plans going. Right now it's lip service by other candidates with no hard figures. Where's the money and plan for implementation for the others ? Edwards, said his alternative energy plan will create 1 million new alternative energy jobs. I really didn't want this to be a politcal discussion but was only reporting on what Edwards said about the UAW. It is worth posting stuff related to the subject title isn't it ? If Fred Thompson, McCain, etc, would of said something about the UAW, or job creations in the automobile industry I would post it. I am not that biased. The fact remains not many of the candidates running are talking about domestic issues but Edwards, has ever since he's declared he was running. It always about the war in Iraq, and I for one am tired of listening about that subject. If you don't like this forum you have the right to not leave any comments or skip over the posts. I want to keep this forum focused on the UAW and Automobile industry and thus is the reason why I highlighted the automobile related stuff from Edwards speech. I'm optomistic enough that we can be mature enough to keep this one civil.
 
Now more on topic:
 
So do any of you think the UAW, will get the Georgetown Kentucky plant unionized ? If so how much longer do you think it will take ? Do you think other transplants will unionize in the near or distant future ?
 
Thanks,
 
Rocky
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Re: I guess I can't resist... [rockylee] by gagrice
Apr 23, 2007 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 23, 2007 4:23 pm)

Every presidential candidate will go to Detroit and promise the moon to the auto workers and especially the UAW. Congress is the ones that decides whether to spend the money. I am a 37 year retired Teamster and 8 years in the CWA before that. I am all for the Unions. I have tried to get my son to take a Union job in Alaska. I just do not believe anything that comes out of the mouth of that candidate. I know how he got rich and believe that IS a major problem in this country. Much of the reason that so many companies go over seas. Edwards cannot have it both ways.
 
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I would love nothing better than to see the UAW organize the Toyota plants all across our great land.
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Re: I guess I can't resist... [gagrice] by rockylee
Apr 23, 2007 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 23, 2007 5:07 pm)

Every presidential candidate will go to Detroit and promise the moon to the auto workers and especially the UAW.
 
gagrice, I respect your opinion pal. I always have. I love Edwards, as I do think he is the only candidate running who will follow through on his promise to the UAW workers and auto-industry. It's probably a moot point as Hillary and Obama, got the far left in their corner so Edwards, will only be a memory of mine come election time unless for some miracle he can pull it off.
 
Congress is the ones that decides whether to spend the money. I am a 37 year retired Teamster and 8 years in the CWA before that. I am all for the Unions. I have tried to get my son to take a Union job in Alaska.
 
This is just one reason why I respect your point of view as you can look at it from my side of the fence. I can understand why your son doesn't want the job based on the descriptions you told me. I wouldn't want my employer having the power telling me I can't have a beer when I'm off the clock.
 
I just do not believe anything that comes out of the mouth of that candidate.
 
Well I feel most of us don't but in this case his actions speak more than words. His 4 year voting record in the Senate, is something else I have to go on also.
 
I know how he got rich and believe that IS a major problem in this country. Much of the reason that so many companies go over seas.
 
Well, I don't hate or dislike him for how he got rich. He was doing his job, and if I would of been one of those family's that had their son or daughter hurt or killed via malpractice, I'd want to get something in return as I'd be a basket case and probably would never be able to work again. It's not the patients fault the doctor cut off the wrong leg. This is why we pay these people so much damn money to prevent any accident from happening.
 
Edwards cannot have it both ways.
 
I don't know what you mean ? I don't see how he is having it both ways ? The guy has always stood up for average folks rights. The UAW, right now is backing him. He has many union supporters around the country. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if a guy like Lutz, who is know to shoot off his mouth and makes a move and publicly support him as well ? Sure Edwards, lives in a mansion but at least he isn't so conceded that he doesn't know where he came from. He is a son of a mill worker, and his hard work paid off as he was able to obtain a law degree. He was good at what he did as a trial lawyer and made some money a long the way. Should he of not did his job as well as he could ?
 
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I would love nothing better than to see the UAW organize the Toyota plants all across our great land.

 
Glad we agree....
 
How long do you thing it will take gagrice, for the UAW, to organize Toyota ? Do you see Honda, being the next target ? I think they need to go hit the Alabama, plant as those people are by far making the least amount of money.
 
Rocky

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