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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 20, 2007 9:52 pm) Proposed treaty doesn't eliminate barriers to U.S. products in Korean market http://www.uaw.org/atissue/atstory.cfm?atId=182 Tell Congress: NO on Korea free trade agreement! http://www.uaw.org/dclink/dcstory.cfm?DcId=148 It also fails to protect workers rights  http://www.uaw.org/dclink/factworkerrights.pdf The UAW, can see the writing on the wall. They like me can see the growing impact Hyundai and Kia will have on the U.S. market and eliminating the tariff will only make it worse.  Just my $0.02  Rocky |
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if GM, Ford and DCX design engineers would eat just a few less jelly donuts(or should I say a few more)and drink a few less cups of Starbuck's and design a car like my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS I might be spending my money on domestic automotive products. The UAW has rode the glory train for way too many years and, sadly, the manufacturing has gleaned on large pick-em up trucks and large homely SUVs. I love cars, trucks, not so much. Imports: great cars. Domestics: decent trucks. I hear the health care industry needs workers.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 20, 2007 10:09 pm) GM, has built a great Lancer competitor called the Opel/Saturn Astra. I think the next generation is being examined as we speak. I think I read on insideline GM, is going to invest 4.5 Billion on this car. It is a very popular automobile in Europe. I guess the Lancer, just grabbed ya. I can see why. I wished GM, would build a Lancer, like vehicle as it is a great design IMHO. My wife doesn't like it and prefers the Astra. I guess if ford brought over the Falcon, it would really give the Lancer, some compeition. Chrysler, appears to have no real competitor is the compact car segment. Honda, is still king but I do think the Lancer, will sell very well. The UAW, hasn't rode on the glory train in several years. Look at how many jobs they have lost because this country refuses to properly protect manufactoring jobs like automobile jobs while foreign governments place barriers to eliminate competition in their homeland. The only vehicles that sell in foreign lands made outside of their country in Korea, Japan, China, is luxury vehicles like Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, because when your filthy rich you can afford the tariff. Rocky
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UAW bid would face hurdles Union chief says he wants Chrysler to stay with DCX, but is studying members' proposal to buy company. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070421/AUTO01/704210356/1148- /rss25 If this were to happen I guess I'd have to some how find a DCX product I like and buy it.  Kerkorkian, is meeting with the UAW, and just maybe togeather they will buy it. What I'd like to see is the UAW, make a 100% american made union vehicle and I'd be one of the first to line-up to buy it. Rocky |
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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070421/AUTO01/704210378/1148- /rss25 What does this mean to you: The UAW, is going to get a lot more flexible with it's work rules to be more competitive. Now if we can only get congress to help them out by leveling the playing field. Rocky |
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I think Congress doesn't have the means to bargain with Japan and Korea and China and get the trading tariffs/fees levelled to a fair game for the U.S. They want to keep things "open" and keep the flow of trade coming in. The other contries won't agree to lift tariffs on U.S. cars and trucks and claim that their people "hate" American automotive products. I don't know how much of this is really true and how much is being "spoon-fed" in to their homeland people, know what I mean? rocky...I am not against the UAW yet I do feel that they have not helped the situation with the domestics and their imposed "playing field" with the imports and the import countries. I favored Ford products and bought them for many moons. A revamped Falcon(I liked the old early 60's Falcon's..the forerunner to the Mustang)would we most welcome for Ford, the new Mustang is a very good effort by Ford and I think the Fusion is a fairly well-built midsize from Ford...I took a look at them last year... for a few days, anyway.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 10, 2007 4:50 pm) Rocky
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I have to say that after all of these months posting on here I see that you are making a great effort and that is repectable. You have UAW and family with automotive success interests in the domestic product. Of course you're gonna feel the way you do. I guess I changed my attitude in the late 90's when I saw low-cost cars coming from S.Korea that looked like they were built fairly well. Far from perfect(indeed my first Kia, a '99 Sephia, just held Kia's 3 year and 36,000 mile powertrain Warranty, IIRC)but I liked their small bodies and attention to detail. Kia and yes big bro Hyundai, esp.with the new Genesis project, are looking out for themselves quite well. They're building manufacturing plants with intentions for more plants from both makers. Kia is now looking strongly at making their Mojave pickup truck that will sell, of course, in the U.S. Mitsu has me captured though with this hot new Lancer GTS. My wife and I are diggin' the Rally Red paint job and the sunroof and that monster stereo from Rockford Fosgate. I respect Mitsubishi's building talents and this car handles great and produces no annoying squeaks and rattles.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 21, 2007 12:24 pm) The fact remains that Korea's domestic content sits at 3%. That wasn't my only problem with it. I did a lot of research yesterday on South Korea, Hyundai, Kia, and the myths of them treating their country's citizens fair with human rights was a real turn off for me. I read buyer testimony's on the net of sales experiences and boy this company has issues on customer service that would make VW blush. I always thought VW, was bad but man some of these people were told to bend over and touch their toes in the service department. I suppose as you say that more and more Hykia products will be built here. That is a good thing. They might not come here so fast if they see Toyota, getting unionized because of the way they are treating older employees. Hyundai's biggest fear would be paying liveable wages and benefits. They right now pay about $14 an hour in Alabama. Since they have a 401K retirement that means the employee contributions aren't very high on those wages because of the cost of living. That just isn't sustainable and you'd have to work till you croak. As far as your Lancer, goes I guess it's made in Japan ? I always thought for some reason they were made in California, but the car I'm must be thinking of is the Eclipse (I Think) ? I like I said to you believe the Lancer, is very stylish. It would be nice if Mitsubishi, would build all their cars here.  Rocky |
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indeed built by Mitsubishi in Japan, yes. No, I am not one to take human rights issues in to play when making an economic decision involving my wife and I. That is, I will admit that, if I allowed myself to get emotionally involved enough through research, as you said you did, I might change my mind. I got good usage out of both of my Kia's and the service department treated me very well at both dealerships I went to for service. I have not heard of Mitsubishi mistreating their employees at all. If anyone has input regarding that, do fire away. I remain very impressed with their automotive product, Warranty and their organization and hard-work ethic I see put in to place. Quite impressive.
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