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#1 of 20641 United Automobile Workers of America (UAW)
Apr 20, 2007 (9:52 pm)
It appears the UAW, is really pushing to unionize Toyota.
Toyota workers in Kentucky demand a share in company's success:
I talk a lot of smack about buying a Hyundai Genesis, but you guys all know when it came down to it I couldn't pull the trigger. I pulled it once on the Acura, (a mistake) but I got to support american jobs. Now if those Hyundai Genesis, were made here with american parts and were union made that might be a different story. I hope the UAW, does unionize Toyota, because I'd like to at least keep Toyota, as a option in the future. Y'all Toyota Kool-Aid drinkers wouldn't ever here me talk very much smack ever again about Toyota. Now if we could get those Lexus brand cars made here by UAW workers that would be a cool option.
I however will most likely only drive General Motors automobiles. Sure I like other brands but I need to support good jobs for our workers. I would love to see Toyota, provide good paying union jobs where workers can be employed for a full career.
Apr 20, 2007 (10:09 pm)
if GM, Ford and DCX design engineers would eat just a few less jelly donuts(or should I say a few more)and drink a few less cups of Starbuck's and design a car like my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS I might be spending my money on domestic automotive products. The UAW has rode the glory train for way too many years and, sadly, the manufacturing has gleaned on large pick-em up trucks and large homely SUVs.
I love cars, trucks, not so much.
Imports: great cars.
Domestics: decent trucks.
I hear the health care industry needs workers.
#4 of 20641 Re: rockford... [iluvmysephia1]
Apr 20, 2007 (10:41 pm)
iluv, indeed your Lancer, is a very nice looking automobile. It wouldn't be so cheap if it wasn't for the currency manipulation problem we have with Japan. We've been through that discussion enough so I'll leave it alone.
GM, has built a great Lancer competitor called the Opel/Saturn Astra. I think the next generation is being examined as we speak. I think I read on insideline GM, is going to invest 4.5 Billion on this car. It is a very popular automobile in Europe. I guess the Lancer, just grabbed ya. I can see why. I wished GM, would build a Lancer, like vehicle as it is a great design IMHO. My wife doesn't like it and prefers the Astra. I guess if ford brought over the Falcon, it would really give the Lancer, some compeition. Chrysler, appears to have no real competitor is the compact car segment. Honda, is still king but I do think the Lancer, will sell very well.
The UAW, hasn't rode on the glory train in several years. Look at how many jobs they have lost because this country refuses to properly protect manufactoring jobs like automobile jobs while foreign governments place barriers to eliminate competition in their homeland. The only vehicles that sell in foreign lands made outside of their country in Korea, Japan, China, is luxury vehicles like Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, because when your filthy rich you can afford the tariff.
#5 of 20641 UAW to buy Chrysler ? Holy Smokes !!!!!
Apr 20, 2007 (11:20 pm)
UAW bid would face hurdles
Union chief says he wants Chrysler to stay with DCX, but is studying members' proposal to buy company.
If this were to happen I guess I'd have to some how find a DCX product I like and buy it.
Kerkorkian, is meeting with the UAW, and just maybe togeather they will buy it. What I'd like to see is the UAW, make a 100% american made union vehicle and I'd be one of the first to line-up to buy it.
Apr 21, 2007 (9:48 am)
I think Congress doesn't have the means to bargain with Japan and Korea and China and get the trading tariffs/fees levelled to a fair game for the U.S.
They want to keep things "open" and keep the flow of trade coming in. The other contries won't agree to lift tariffs on U.S. cars and trucks and claim that their people "hate" American automotive products.
I don't know how much of this is really true and how much is being "spoon-fed" in to their homeland people, know what I mean?
rocky...I am not against the UAW yet I do feel that they have not helped the situation with the domestics and their imposed "playing field" with the imports and the import countries.
I favored Ford products and bought them for many moons.
A revamped Falcon(I liked the old early 60's Falcon's..the forerunner to the Mustang)would we most welcome for Ford, the new Mustang is a very good effort by Ford and I think the Fusion is a fairly well-built midsize from Ford...I took a look at them last year... for a few days, anyway.
#8 of 20641 Re: rocky... [iluvmysephia1]
Apr 21, 2007 (11:45 am)
The Japanese, are nationalist. I can respect that. We in our culture have lost that I suppose. I'm sometimes guilty of it. I however try to make more of a effort to buy american than your average Joe.
Apr 21, 2007 (12:24 pm)
I have to say that after all of these months posting on here I see that you are making a great effort and that is repectable. You have UAW and family with automotive success interests in the domestic product. Of course you're gonna feel the way you do.
I guess I changed my attitude in the late 90's when I saw low-cost cars coming from S.Korea that looked like they were built fairly well. Far from perfect(indeed my first Kia, a '99 Sephia, just held Kia's 3 year and 36,000 mile powertrain Warranty, IIRC)but I liked their small bodies and attention to detail. Kia and yes big bro Hyundai, esp.with the new Genesis project, are looking out for themselves quite well. They're building manufacturing plants with intentions for more plants from both makers. Kia is now looking strongly at making their Mojave pickup truck that will sell, of course, in the U.S.
Mitsu has me captured though with this hot new Lancer GTS. My wife and I are diggin' the Rally Red paint job and the sunroof and that monster stereo from Rockford Fosgate. I respect Mitsubishi's building talents and this car handles great and produces no annoying squeaks and rattles.
#10 of 20641 Re: rocky... [iluvmysephia1]
Apr 21, 2007 (1:00 pm)
I like I have said in the Genesis, forum which I created still after my change of heart believe the Genesis, will win a lot of buyers. If they made it here and was made let's say of 70% domestic content I could perhaps buy one.
The fact remains that Korea's domestic content sits at 3%. That wasn't my only problem with it. I did a lot of research yesterday on South Korea, Hyundai, Kia, and the myths of them treating their country's citizens fair with human rights was a real turn off for me. I read buyer testimony's on the net of sales experiences and boy this company has issues on customer service that would make VW blush. I always thought VW, was bad but man some of these people were told to bend over and touch their toes in the service department.
I suppose as you say that more and more Hykia products will be built here. That is a good thing. They might not come here so fast if they see Toyota, getting unionized because of the way they are treating older employees. Hyundai's biggest fear would be paying liveable wages and benefits. They right now pay about $14 an hour in Alabama. Since they have a 401K retirement that means the employee contributions aren't very high on those wages because of the cost of living. That just isn't sustainable and you'd have to work till you croak.
As far as your Lancer, goes I guess it's made in Japan ? I always thought for some reason they were made in California, but the car I'm must be thinking of is the Eclipse (I Think) ? I like I said to you believe the Lancer, is very stylish. It would be nice if Mitsubishi, would build all their cars here.