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#30 of 35 Re: And this is a good look at the future [drfill] by gagrice

Oct 15, 2007 (7:51 pm)

Replying to: drfill (Oct 15, 2007 10:37 am)
If I am reading the WSJ article right, no Li-Ion before 2011 and maybe not then. Any new Hybrids are on hold till they can find a battery to replace the NiMH currently being used.

#31 of 35 Re: Toyota seems see where the dollars are coming from [gagrice] by drfill

Oct 16, 2007 (9:18 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Oct 15, 2007 7:49 pm)
I wouldn't call any Hybrids that does 50k a year a flop.
  
   Civic Hybrid does about that, maybe less. I wouldn't consider that a flop.
 
   They were speaking relative to the Prius, which is a huge success. These are in relative terms.
  
   Is David Wright a flop compared to Alex Rodriquez?
 
   DrFill

#32 of 35 Re: - [dudleyr] by nvbanker

Nov 06, 2007 (10:50 am)

Replying to: dudleyr (Apr 21, 2007 8:27 am)
Interesting how nobody has tried that yet....a hybrid minivan. Ford did a great job on the Escape Hybrid - you can hardly tell the batteries are even in there, the spare is still underneath, and you still have a decent floor in the back too. I would think the Sienna could be made to work with the Hybrid.....maybe engine bay space is a problem?

#33 of 35 Re: - [nvbanker] by larsb

Nov 06, 2007 (11:20 am)

Replying to: nvbanker (Nov 06, 2007 10:50 am)
Toyota has the "Estima" hybrid minivan in Japan, and has had it for several years.
 
Click here for more info on the Estima
 
I cannot for the life of me understand their reticence to do it as a Sienna in the USA.
 
Confusing as heck !!!

#34 of 35 Re: - [larsb] by nwng

Jan 22, 2008 (3:52 pm)

Replying to: larsb (Nov 06, 2007 11:20 am)
If you stick the 2.4 hsd in sienna, you get your estima. minivans w/o v6 don't sell in the US, unfortunately. Looking at the link, it seems the hybrid will improve the mpg by about 25% over the 3.5l. I think they will bring it out if the next gen ody comes with a diesel option.

#35 of 35 What about.... by wwest

Jan 23, 2008 (12:59 pm)

A Sienna hybrid with the I4 but with a Miller Cycle using a positive displacement variable speed Supercharger. Use an E-CVT with a engine drive belt into one end and a permanent magnet AC synchronous motor at the opposite, ~3:1 reduction, end.
 
A variable frequency drive to the AC motor would allow complete, full range, engine throttling without a throttle butterfly valve. No boost would be provided unless extraordinary level of power were asked for.
 
Note that the 2.3L Twin-turbo engine in the Acura RDX produces 240HP. In comparison a hybrid Miller Cycle 2.3L I4 SC'ed as above (NO Turbo LAG) would only need to produce about 200HP w/full boost in order to match the performance of the RX400h.
 
A 40MPG Sienna....?

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