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2006 Honda Civic Hybrid Wheel Alignment Issues

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Re: Civic Alignment Issues [hondacivic07] by jonathann
Jan 17, 2008 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: hondacivic07 (Jan 16, 2008 11:59 am)

I am in Ontario Canada and was issued a 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid in October (Government of Ontario assigned vehicle - I work for them). I had the first oil change (and tire rotation) done at 8,000 miles and my mechanic advised that the rear tires were chipped (cupped?), and that this is an alignment problem, not a tire problem.
 
I took the vehicle to the loca Honda dealer, who confirmed that there was a Service Bulletin on this and ordered the required parts (rear upper control arms).
 
Apparently, some upper control arms were manufactured slightly short, causing the alignment problem. Because the parts came from a certain manufacturer and there is no record of which cars received them, it is not possible to identify problem cars by serial number or date of manufacture.
 
All owners of this vehicle should be aware of the problem and look for unusual wear on rear tires.
 
I have now had the warranty work done, and other than the chipping on the interior edge, the tires where not worn more than usual, so I am hoping that they achieve a normal lifespan from them.
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i know this is a hybrid site... by hangaralf1
Jan 17, 2008 (7:11 pm)
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but do you know if this was an issue with just the HCH or with all civics. I have an 06 LX and after just one year, i had to replace tires also. Sort of a blessing, because i really didn't like the bridgestones on it, but i don't want this to happen to my yokohamas too (for which i paid over $600 + the alignment).
I thought it was just my driving, or crappy tires, but maybe not.
could you post the TSB on this, or tell me how find out the number.
thanks
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2007 Civic Rear Alignment by rogerjb
Jan 19, 2008 (7:29 am)
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We bought a EX Coupe in April 2007 and have cupping of the tires on the rear. This was dicovered at the first tire rotation. After much run around at the dealer I contacted Honda America. They got back to me 2 days after my initial call and confirmed they have an rear alignment problem, but did not have a fix which they have provided to dealers in North Carolia as yet.
 
When I asked about the exceptional wear on the tires, they said that when the fix is made they would take care of tire wear caused by the alignment problem.
 
My faith in Honda is partially restored. When the fix is done I will be a happy camper.
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Re: i know this is a hybrid site... [hangaralf1] by jonathann
Jan 24, 2008 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: hangaralf1 (Jan 17, 2008 7:11 pm)

When I had the warranty work done, I asked if this problem was unique to the Hybrid because of the additional battery weight in the rear end. I was told, no the defective upper control arms were installed in all Honda Civic models and there is no record of which ones.
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Re: Civic Alignment Issues [hondacivic07] by mafanslau
Jan 29, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: hondacivic07 (Jan 16, 2008 11:59 am)

I just went to the dealer and they told me that my right rear tire is worn and needed replacement after 30,000 miles. After leaving the dealer, I did some online research and came across this thread. I'm heading back to the dealer next week. I don't know anything about cars, so I hope I can get some answers from them.
 
This situation gets me mad. This is my first new car and I bought it for it's relability. I now want to trade the car in. Do we think this problem is ever going to get solved?
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I have the same issues by dave161
Jan 29, 2008 (7:08 pm)
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In reading this thread and another similar one, I find that my 06 civic hybrid has the same tire wearing issue. In addition, I find that my car handles very poorly in the snow or on roads that are occasionally slippery. The back end moves back and forth and the car handles poorly. I had the car in today for an oil change and rotation and they told me my tires were shot. When I told them I had never had tires go so quickly, 35,000 miles they gave several different excuses. 1. cheap tires 2. need to rotate more often 3. tire pressure When I asked if others were having the same problems with wear and control I was told it was not a major problem. Having this thread in hand, I will be calling my dealer and Honda tomorrow. Have others had their tires replaced? I too have had loud rear noises that went unsolved. Is there going to be a recall? Is there an American Service Bulletin being issued?
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Re: I have the same issues [dave161] by paisan1
Jan 31, 2008 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: dave161 (Jan 29, 2008 7:08 pm)

to all of you out there with rear alignment problems..i have finally received the SERVICE BULLETIN fix.new toe in arms,and 4 new tires...all at no cost to me.
I do not have the SERVICE BULLETIN number at this time.as soon as I receive the
paper work from the dealer I will post it for all of you....I too will be selling my civic hybrid soon.maybe the new Malibu hybrid will be good...arthur
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Re: I have the same issues [paisan1] by cheever
Jan 31, 2008 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: paisan1 (Jan 31, 2008 9:37 am)

Hooray! Please post the SB number for us. My dealer claims he knows nothing about it. I agree.... once I get this problem fixed with the tires, I'm going to sell my hybrid. Honda has just lost its shine for me. Too much run around. After 5 Civics, I'm now looking at a Corolla or a Saturn hybrid. I need a fresh start and I want to feel good about my car again.
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Vibration and Tire Wear by jcampa
Jan 31, 2008 (7:12 pm)
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I am writing to you all about a concern and issue that I am having to endure with American Honda Motor Corporation. In August of 2006, I purchased a 2006 Honda Civic for better gas milage, safety and reliability for my wife and two kids from Bob Howard Auto-Mall in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. What my wife and me did not know at the time of purchase was that American Honda had installed bad control arms on the rear of the vehicle which caused the tires to wear out on the sidewalls more rapidly, thus causing flats and possibly blowouts on the rear wheels.
  
In September of 2007, my wife experienced a flat tire while doing errands around the City of Canyon and Amarillo, Texas, the tire was replaced and a new one was purchased from Walmart due to undue wear on the sidewalls.
  
In October of 2007, this car experienced another flat tire on the other side and this time the car was taken to Discount Tire here in Amarillo, Texas. The service manager indicated that the tires were wearing wrong on the side walls and that the car had a serious alignment problem. The dealership was contacted and James the service representative for Bob Howard Auto-Mall indicated that the control arms on the rear of the car were defective and that this flaw was causing the tires to wear out on the side walls.
  
He also indicated that there was no fix to the car at that time and that it could be as late as December 2007, before a fix is made to the car. As of the January 18, 2008, there is still no fix for this flaw. The dealership has informed me that it may take another 10 months to fix the rear control arms on these vehicles.
  
As for the tires, James indicated that we should contact American Honda for reimbursement of the tires that were purchased at Discount Tire by American Honda in California. They were contacted and a check was reimbursed to us for approximately 375.00 dollars of the approximate 750.00 dollars that had already been spent. During both flats the car was driven over curbs to get the vehicle out of the road ways. And on either the first or second occurrences damage was done under the automobile that causes the brake light to flash while going down the highway.
  
The car was taken to Southwest Honda in Amarillo, Texas and they indicated that damage was done to the undercarriage of the automobile and that my warranty would not cover the damage that was done. It was explained to them that the damage was done due to the flats on the rear tires and that due to safety concerns of not changing the tires in the middle of the road, I had to go over the curb to get out of the traffic flow instead of changing it and causing an unsafe condition for other drives and myself. Honda America is uncooperative and unwilling to help us in resolving this issue. They implied that we should have been killed or hurt because of this flaw, before they will do anything to resolve this issue.
  
Conclusions:
 
This car has a serious flaw and American Honda knew it and deceived the American public into believing that the car is safe and free from defects, this car was represented to us as not having any problems or flaws or defects. However, Honda America sold a vehicle that has rear control arms that are defective and need to be replaced before a serious accident happens with these automobiles.
  
Customers are unaware of this flaw who bought this car believing that Honda produced a safe product, however what will happen when someone is traveling at 60 mph or even 70 mph, and a blow out occurs. Does someone have to lose their life or their family before something is done by Honda America and these companies like Honda America is held accountable.
  
The bottom line is Honda America is not interested in anything we have to say and is not willing to fix a problem they caused. Get the word out do not buy a HONDA of any Kind.
 
Cheers
#40 of 148
Ditto...with the tire/alignment problem by jfain
Feb 04, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: paisan1 (Jan 31, 2008 9:37 am)

I just had my 30,000 mile service at the dealership I bought my 2006 Civic Hybrid from. They told me the same thing about the alignment and uneven wear on the tires. I did not get the new set of tires they recommended because I was planning to shop around. However, if this problem is their fault, I don't want to pay for new tires nor an alignment. I will be calling the dealership today. PLEASE forward the Service Bulletin information as soon as possible. jfain

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