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Chrysler T&C/Dodge Grand Caravan brakes

68 messages,  Last post on Oct 06, 2009 at 4:33 AM

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Re: Update.. [wwest] by xwesx
Sep 12, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 22, 2008 9:24 am)

wwest-
 
Your conclusion sounds logical to me. I, also, have an AWD van, though mine is a 1998. With 190,000 miles on it, we have had it ~16 months and the front pads have worn probably about 10% in those 20,000 miles. I think the brakes on this van are excellent, especially on dry surfaces. They are extremely responsive to driver input and will slow the vehicle down very quickly in a "panic" stop.
 
Good luck tracking down the issue, and please post the solution when it is found. I used to live in Pendleton, OR, and used Les Schwab on numerous occasions. I always found their staff helpful and honest, so I expect they will do everything they can to set this situation right both for your daughter's safety and your satisfaction.
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Re: Update.. [xwesx] by wwest
Sep 18, 2008 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Sep 12, 2008 9:48 am)

Les Schwab installed the new proportioning valves but it appears that did not help.
 
They tried to do the pressure testing but with three out of four defective pressure guages, reading above 500PSI "at rest", the testing must be considered inconclusive.
 
I suspect my next effort, if any, will be to block the fluid flow to the rear brakes altogether and see how the braking "feels" under hard/panic braking.
 
My problem may be that I am simply expecting too much of the braking capability of the van. I seem to remember that back when I was driving it on a more regular basis the panic level braking was much better, but at my age...
 
But based on other vehicles I drive regularly I can panic brake on dry pavement, asphalt, and get the ABS to kick in easily, with the van that is difficult even on wet asphalt.
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Re: Update.. [wwest] by xwesx
Sep 18, 2008 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Sep 18, 2008 9:09 am)

Well, either that van has the most incredible tires in the world, or the brakes are not grabbing enough. You should be able to get the ABS to engage in a panic stop.
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Re: Update.. [xwesx] by wwest
Dec 15, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Sep 18, 2008 2:56 pm)

As a reference point last week I test drove a 2003 AWD Chrysler T&C minivan. The brakes were not any better than those on our 2000 van. Even on a rain slicked asphalt roadbed the brakes were no frictional enough to activate ABS.
 
To cross check I went next door to the Toyota dealer and test drive a used Sienna. Surprise, even without my leaning into the brakes ABS would kick in on that same section of rain soaked roadbed.
 
The Sienna did seem to be more ponderous handling wise but the brakes were as expected, "lean" into them and the nose would dive, unlike the T&C that under hard/severe braking just seems to "float along".
 
I guess my next step is to find calipers that will fit the van but have BIGGER pistons. Or do I have to find a machine shop..??
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Re: going on third set of brakes [stephdilli] by reddog607
Feb 07, 2009 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: stephdilli (Apr 21, 2007 7:49 pm)

you are right the sliders get locked up in the caliper all the time and that is why you eat brakes
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2003 GC Front Brake Issue by audiophile72
Apr 17, 2009 (8:00 am)
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I have been reading these post hoping for an answer but I can't find anything like what mine is doing. About three months ago my father and I replaced the front brakes on my wife's '03 GC because the rubber sleeve on the caliper adapter on the passenger side had froze up. We turned the rotors replaced the pads w/Wagner premium, and all of the bushings and boots on the adapters. About a month later the driver side did the same thing. I replaced the sleeve on the slide pin again and this seemed to fix it. 2 weeks later same thing. Replaced sleeve again. A week later same thing except now the brakes are "jumping" (kinda like hitting a bump in the road) every time you slow down. Pulled adapter again to find slide pin jammed and bent inside adapter. So now we replace both calipers/adapters/pads - rotors still in good shape - problem fixed. Untill today. Same problem also noticing that the drivers side seems to get extremely hot and you can smell the brakes after driving. This is driving me nuts, has anyone heard of this? Any other ideas?
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Re: 2003 GC Front Brake Issue [audiophile72] by srs_49
Apr 17, 2009 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: audiophile72 (Apr 17, 2009 8:00 am)

Master cylinder maybe? I had one go bad on my wife's '02 Subaru and it caused the front pads on one side not to retract from the rotor which led to overheating and smoking.
 
Sounds like you replaced all the right stuff - more than I usually do unless the parts look bad when I remove them
 
One thing, what do you mean by the adapter? Is that the assembly that bolts to the spindle and to which the calipers bolt?
#56 of 68
Re: 2003 GC Front Brake Issue [srs_49] by audiophile72
Apr 17, 2009 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Apr 17, 2009 8:38 am)

Yes the adapter is the bracket that the caliper bolts to. One of the sleeves that the float pins go into had pitted an was jamming up the pins. I thought that was the main problem - apparently not. Hoses and master cylinder were my next steps.
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2008 Grand Caravan Braking problems since purchesed NEW by moons2you
Jun 14, 2009 (7:33 am)
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Well, I can't even tell you how many times my pads and rotors have been changed! Has anyone been having warped rotors also? I have been bringing my van in for a oil change and braking problems EVERY 3,000 miles. THANK GOD IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY!!!!! At first I had been told it was my driving. Then it was, I must have hit a puddle when the rotors were hot. Asked of driving two footed and now just plan down to it, they can't understand WHY as no other van we know of is having this problem............. This is crazy my van now has 25,000 miles and we still are going threw this mess any help will be greatly appriciated so I can show them other people are having the same problems too!
#58 of 68
BAD BRAKES by madatbrakes
Jun 30, 2009 (4:48 pm)
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