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Re: going on third set of brakes [chp3ril]
by stephdilli
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Apr 21, 2007 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: chp3ril (Apr 14, 2007 7:30 am)
Funny we have a 1997 t&c and we are on our 3rd brake job in the last 2 years. Today my husband took the van in again and the guy told him it's how I drive - which is a lot of BS!!!
I called 4 different places and each told me that it's most likely the calipers - and that the place we went should've been able to tell that - either way I need to take it someplace again to have it looked at!
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Re: going on third set of brakes [chp3ril]
by playtime
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May 05, 2007 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: chp3ril (Apr 14, 2007 7:30 am)
Did you purchase this T&C new? If so you need to can that dealer and try a different one. Although I have heard of some people only getting 21,000 out of their front brakes but you did type 3 complete brake replacements "set meaning all for wheels"in 18,000 miles. I would have to see this vehical myself because you haven't said one thing about smelling anything burning and to go through that many sets of brakes you would be smelling your brakes being hot every time you pulled up to a stop light or even into the garage if you had one. Your talking about one set of brakes every 6,000 miles and the only way this could be done is if number one all calipers were sticking and and the odds of that happening are not good at all plus you would also experience brake fade and have a hard time stopping. Now lets just say the anti-lock brake control is out of sink you would also see the anti-lock brake light or loss of traction light come on also but you did not mention any strange feeling from your brake peddle at all. Please write back with some answers to the things that I have mentioned because none of this makes any sense at all. I race cars on a closed circuit race way and I expect my brakes to wear out fast in my case. Hey I am in no way stating your not telling the truth so lets not even go there if it sounded like I was going there I am talking mechanics here ok. I would love to look at this vehical myself and then check out the problem. Geez you would have to have your foot laying on the brake peddle while driving - but one thing you didn't even mention was any type of strange feeling from the brake peddle. Maybe I missed you posting some other information that I missed if so please let me know ok. Cheers
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town and country 06 brakes
by donajlp
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May 09, 2007 (8:50 pm)
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This is the second minivan i have owned. The first was a dodge caravan a 1999. I had trouble with the brakes constantly on that car replacing calipers, pads, and rotors, numerous times. I could not go more than 6 months without having to have some type of brake work. (I live in a hilly area, I do not drive much, I don't ride the brake and my mechanic stated that this was "nomral". However with all the cars I have owned I never had to replace brakes so frequently. Now I have bought a certified Chrysler Town and Country an 06 with 21,000 miles. I have put 6,000 miles on it since purchase and now the brakes need replacing. I don't know yet how extensive this job will be, it goes to the dealer tomorrow. WHen I bought the car 4 months ago I had mechanic look at the brakes carefully as I heard squeaking once in a while. I was told that the brakes had 75-80% on front and full on back. How is it possible that these barkes could now be down to metal in 6,000 miles?
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Brake Caliper Tool
by cactusjack578
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May 12, 2007 (8:25 am)
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I have an 03 Town and Country with four wheel disc brakes. What tool do I need to remove the calipers? I'm talking about the 2 bolts on the back of the caliper that needs to be removed in order to remove the calipers. Is it a Torx or Hex bolt and what size is it? Thanks, Jack
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Re: town and country 06 brakes [donajlp]
by playtime
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May 15, 2007 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: donajlp (May 09, 2007 8:50 pm)
I have heard others complain about the short life of the brakes on our mini-vans and I think its crazy to say the least and a lack of the words I would like to use but in your case its just plain nuts. I am wondering if the heat isn't causing the master cylinder to stay partly engaged from the fuild getting so hot. If you can and have a floor jack I suggest after a trip out and about and then when you reach home use the floor jack and jack up each wheel in a safe location as not to hurt your van or yourself and see if the wheels will turn early in other words that they are not dragging. Also pull the brake fuild cover off and feel the brake fuild to see if it is hot.Either case would show the brakes are over heating and you might need to change to a different type of brake pad material. Chrysler using a real soft brake lining "ever noticed all that black dust on your once clean wheels" thats what is causing it. So many people complained about their brakes being noisy as in chirping and squilling they changed pad material. I have 23,000 on my T&C and I still have over 70% of my linings left aprox. before they will need replacing but I am going to have them replaced with a semi-metalic pad soon and live with the noice if any. That type of pad is harder on the rotors and they do not operate as good as the original pads untill they get up to operating temperture in other works once they have been used for a few times they work better with each stop after. In your case with rotors having to be replaced so often it would be worth the change if your only getting 6,000 miles out of them anyway. I hate that dust and I hate cleaning my wheels twice a week and I hate cheap brake pads. Whats a little noise once in a while if this might help your problem. But your whole brake system needs to be checked out you might even have defective brake hose that go to the calipers that are explaning once the fuild gets hot. Brakes are complicated if a auto company takes the easy way out. Good Luck please let us know how you make out dollar wise also ok. Thank You Jack - playtime
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Have you tried Ceramic Pads?
by paulwoo
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May 15, 2007 (10:54 pm)
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Town & Country and Caravans are known for their front brake problems. I’m on my second T&C now I had 1997 T&C and I currently drive an 03 T&C Limited. These brakes last about 18 month on my driving 24,000 miles a year of mostly freeway driving.
I eliminated my problems by replacing my front rotors to EBC Sport Rotors (Drilled & Slotted). Brembo also makes one just like it. These rotors lets dust and gas escape through the slots and dimples to keep your brakes cool. I match them with a Raybestos QuietStop Non-Ferrous Ceramic Pads  . These pads come with a limited lifetime warranty.
If you can take off lug nuts off of your tire and unscrew two bolts off of your caliper you should be able to do this your self with little effort.
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Re: going on third set of brakes [chp3ril]
by hansienna
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May 20, 2007 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: chp3ril (Apr 14, 2007 7:30 am)
My 2002 T&C LX disc brake original pads had more than half the wear remaining when they were measured by the dealer at 36,390 miles. The 2002 T&C LX had an overall AVERAGE fuel economy of 22.3 MPG at that time. Best mileage was 28.2 MPG on a long 1409 mile round trip. 
Based on my experience with the 02 T&C, the T&C have OUTSTANDING brakes for both stopping and lasting a long time.
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Re: going on third set of brakes [hansienna]
by xwesx
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May 21, 2007 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: hansienna (May 20, 2007 9:22 am)
original pads had more than half the wear remaining when they were measured by the dealer at 36,390 miles
That does not sound very good to me, but that is still quite a bit better than 6,000 miles!
I changed out the original pads on my '96 Legacy wagon at 144K for the fronts and 196K for the rears. The higher revving engine makes for less braking though.
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Re: going on third set of brakes [xwesx]
by axr6
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May 30, 2007 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (May 21, 2007 10:31 am)
I got an 2006 T&C a couple of months back. I live in a hilly area with some steep grades. The first time I descended on a steep grade my front brakes were smelling pretty bad. I was in driving in LOW (2nd gear). Not much engine braking in that gear.
Talked to a local mechanic and he told me that these vans have a real problem with brakes on hills. According to him there is some kind of sensor that puts nearly all braking power on the front wheels when sensing a down grade.
So, now I slow to 25 MPH on the steep down-hill and have the transmission shift into 1st and use that gear to descend. This way I practically don't touch the brakes the whole way.
Interestingly I also had a company car (GC) that had its brakes last 94K miles. But, it was driven mostly on level grounds.
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