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#321 of 333 Well, by drfill Oct 11, 2007 (7:36 pm)
It's better than talking about box sizes, interior room, safety features, gear ratios, engine power, or comparison tests. Best to steer consumers away from such minor issues. DrFill Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Oct 12, 2007 2:30 pm)
#322 of 333 Re: if your manufacturwer [h20] by 12ozcurls Oct 11, 2007 (8:48 pm)
Replying to: h20 (Oct 10, 2007 7:01 pm) well i've got a '98 chevy K2500 right now but if that didnt exist i'd probably get a Dodge. Even though the ford has the best frame out there right now and is a good looking truck, with the things i do with my truck, i think i would be to worried about messin up its handsom looks, plus the Dodges have the option of a front solid axle...oh here's a little vid i found that the dodge guys might get a kick out of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G74wCRTtjEU
#323 of 333 Re: Like you'd wise up? [anythingbuttoy] by titancrew Oct 12, 2007 (6:45 am)
Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 11, 2007 5:21 pm) Tundra has better ground clearance, approach and departure angles. GM 1/2tons have horrible approach angles. Most CUV have better approach angles. If you're planning to do some offroading with the silverado, better memorize the part the number of that front air dam and foglights. No bluetooth connectivity on silverado. 4spd tranny issues on silverado, eventhough they had a million years to perfect this tranny, they still having failures. Even fulgier than the Tundra with that huge fugly grill. Tundra has 10.5" rear diff on 5.7L V8 and 9.5" on all other. Front and Rear sonar parking assist on Tundra, only rear parking assist on silverado. Unlike ford and nissan, which have a true fully boxed frame, silverado is only boxed to the spare tire cross-member and c-channel from there on. Replies to this message: gotoyota (Oct 12, 2007 7:09 am)
#324 of 333 Re: Like you'd wise up? [titancrew] by gotoyota Oct 12, 2007 (7:09 am)
Replying to: titancrew (Oct 12, 2007 6:45 am) "Tundra has better ground clearance, approach and departure angles. GM 1/2tons have horrible approach angles. Most CUV have better approach angles. If you're planning to do some offroading with the silverado, better memorize the part the number of that front air dam and foglights. No bluetooth connectivity on silverado. 4spd tranny issues on silverado, eventhough they had a million years to perfect this tranny, they still having failures. Even fulgier than the Tundra with that huge fugly grill. Tundra has 10.5" rear diff on 5.7L V8 and 9.5" on all other. Front and Rear sonar parking assist on Tundra, only rear parking assist on silverado. Unlike ford and nissan, which have a true fully boxed frame, silverado is only boxed to the spare tire cross-member and c-channel from there on. " Touche! Replies to this message: 12ozcurls (Oct 12, 2007 1:54 pm) and 1 more...
#326 of 333 In other words by drfill Oct 12, 2007 (12:33 pm)
If you want a GM advantage, go off-road, way off-road, to find one. It has a very nice interior, and a versatile 4WD set-up. Maybe that bird will fly in a walkaround. But I'm not counting on it. DrFill
#329 of 333 Re: Like you'd wise up? [titancrew] by 12ozcurls Oct 12, 2007 (1:54 pm)
Actually the G80 in the heavier duty versions of the rear axle are quite stout. The G80 in the lighter duty half ton is the one that has been known to "grenade" but usually only because the tires guys use to go off-roading are too large for that particular axle. Also, GM transmissions are known for their toughness. It wasn't until the GMT 800 re-design in '99 that the light duty 4L60E started having problems. Before that, that transmission would average 150,000 miles before it had to be serviced or rebuilt. But the heavier duty 4L80E is just down right legendary. (which is one of the reasons why i opted for a K2500 over the K1500 by the way) As far as trucks spending most of their time in drive ways, well that's true for most trucks, foreign and domestic. I'm in California and I see many new Tundras, not a one has a spec of dirty on em. My theory is that the type of buyer that buys the tundra usually isn't one to go off-road or haul anything "heavy" in the first place so most likely they will only use a fraction of all that power and size over it's life time. Very sad indeed. And it is curious why the Tundra doesn't have a locker. Maybe they know their market and that their buyers don't like dirt..although the new Land Cruiser has one and it has roughly the same power and weight as the Tundra. But there's absolutely no excuse for the frame. The new Tundra frame is a decades old design and I can't for the life of me figure out why they went that direction. It is true that the HD's from the domestics also use C-channel frames, but the steel they use is much thicker than the stuff used on the Tundra so that's why they can get away with it there. Anyway, here's a few videos some of you might find interesting depending on your persuasion... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEau14K0m-0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Sdc6V2Uro P.S. I love how in the second video, the Tundra has a hard time keeping up with everyone else..hehehe