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#318 of 333 Last warning... by kcram HOST Oct 11, 2007 (8:15 am)
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#319 of 333 Re: Like you'd wise up? [anythingbuttoy] by anythingbuttoy Oct 11, 2007 (5:21 pm)
Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 10, 2007 6:04 pm) Lack of a locking rear diff. NO rainsense wipers NO heated washer fluid Less warranty Fewer config options Cheap painted plastic interior dash/panels which are already peeling and rubbing off (based on many complaints). 6 spd tranny issues. Bed Bounce (likely due to wimpy frame design) Thinner sheet metal (Dents when leaned against). Crappy ext paint. (Complaints on how easy it is scratched and how thin it is are abundant). Horrible factory remote start, which does not automatically control heat/AC and requires restarting after entry. I am sure I missed some things, I'll update as I think of them, there are so many inferiorities, it's hard to remember them all. Oh, did I mention it's FUGLY!!!??? Edit: I knew I forgot some, here is a biggie... NO Auto4WD transfer case available in Tundra. GM has had this since 1988. And it is simply awesome. Replies to this message: titancrew (Oct 12, 2007 6:45 am) gotoyota (Oct 12, 2007 7:09 am)
#321 of 333 Well, by drfill Oct 11, 2007 (7:36 pm)
It's better than talking about box sizes, interior room, safety features, gear ratios, engine power, or comparison tests. Best to steer consumers away from such minor issues. DrFill Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Oct 12, 2007 2:30 pm)
#322 of 333 Re: if your manufacturwer [h20] by 12ozcurls Oct 11, 2007 (8:48 pm)
Replying to: h20 (Oct 10, 2007 7:01 pm) well i've got a '98 chevy K2500 right now but if that didnt exist i'd probably get a Dodge. Even though the ford has the best frame out there right now and is a good looking truck, with the things i do with my truck, i think i would be to worried about messin up its handsom looks, plus the Dodges have the option of a front solid axle...oh here's a little vid i found that the dodge guys might get a kick out of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G74wCRTtjEU
#323 of 333 Re: Like you'd wise up? [anythingbuttoy] by titancrew Oct 12, 2007 (6:45 am)
Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 11, 2007 5:21 pm) Tundra has better ground clearance, approach and departure angles. GM 1/2tons have horrible approach angles. Most CUV have better approach angles. If you're planning to do some offroading with the silverado, better memorize the part the number of that front air dam and foglights. No bluetooth connectivity on silverado. 4spd tranny issues on silverado, eventhough they had a million years to perfect this tranny, they still having failures. Even fulgier than the Tundra with that huge fugly grill. Tundra has 10.5" rear diff on 5.7L V8 and 9.5" on all other. Front and Rear sonar parking assist on Tundra, only rear parking assist on silverado. Unlike ford and nissan, which have a true fully boxed frame, silverado is only boxed to the spare tire cross-member and c-channel from there on. Replies to this message: gotoyota (Oct 12, 2007 7:09 am)
#324 of 333 Re: Like you'd wise up? [titancrew] by gotoyota Oct 12, 2007 (7:09 am)
Replying to: titancrew (Oct 12, 2007 6:45 am) "Tundra has better ground clearance, approach and departure angles. GM 1/2tons have horrible approach angles. Most CUV have better approach angles. If you're planning to do some offroading with the silverado, better memorize the part the number of that front air dam and foglights. No bluetooth connectivity on silverado. 4spd tranny issues on silverado, eventhough they had a million years to perfect this tranny, they still having failures. Even fulgier than the Tundra with that huge fugly grill. Tundra has 10.5" rear diff on 5.7L V8 and 9.5" on all other. Front and Rear sonar parking assist on Tundra, only rear parking assist on silverado. Unlike ford and nissan, which have a true fully boxed frame, silverado is only boxed to the spare tire cross-member and c-channel from there on. " Touche! Replies to this message: 12ozcurls (Oct 12, 2007 1:54 pm) and 1 more...
#326 of 333 In other words by drfill Oct 12, 2007 (12:33 pm)
If you want a GM advantage, go off-road, way off-road, to find one. It has a very nice interior, and a versatile 4WD set-up. Maybe that bird will fly in a walkaround. But I'm not counting on it. DrFill