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What is this discussion about? Toyota Tundra, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, Ford F-150, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Truck


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Re: Ford F- Series Rusted Broken Bolts on Manifold [gdtaliq] by bristol2
Oct 03, 2007 (8:31 am)

Replying to: gdtaliq (Oct 03, 2007 7:53 am)

When you get laid off, hope you can afford gas for your tundra
 
I don't have a dog in this hunt, however the Tundra has brought more than 3000 jobs to San Antonio, boosted rail freight, added schools etc etc.
It's not as straight forward as 'buy Japanese v. buy American' which I'm guessing was your point.
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Watch the personal comments, please... by kcram HOST
Oct 03, 2007 (8:37 am)
Debate the trucks, not the people commenting on them.
 
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Re: Watch the personal comments, please... [kcram] by gdtaliq
Oct 03, 2007 (8:50 am)

Replying to: kcram (Oct 03, 2007 8:37 am)

I deleted my reply. Sorry bout that
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I hope they don't let the F150 go the by obyone
Oct 03, 2007 (9:22 am)
way of the ranger. From class leading to the bottom of the heap with the last major redesign in 1998. Sometimes you just can't figure out what they are thinking.
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Re: I hope they don't let the F150 go the [obyone] by bristol2
Oct 03, 2007 (9:56 am)

Replying to: obyone (Oct 03, 2007 9:22 am)

Ford is kind of a wild card right now.
 
I will say that it looks like they did okay with the 'Taurus/ 500' switch so hopefully they will get it right with the F-150.
 
With so much riding on the F-150 (Expy is dependant also)they better get it right or the N.America market is going to be lost.
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Re: I hope they don't let the F150 go the [obyone] by drfill
Oct 03, 2007 (9:57 am)

Replying to: obyone (Oct 03, 2007 9:22 am)

And their 5.4 won't be replaced for another 3 years.
  
Toyota turns up the heat for 2008:
 
http://www.thetorquereport.com/2007/10/toyota_releases_13_new_lowend.html
  
   You can get a 4WD DC with the 5.7 for less than $28k!
 
   DrFill
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Re: Watch the personal comments, please... [kcram] by 12ozcurls
Oct 03, 2007 (10:46 am)

Replying to: kcram (Oct 03, 2007 8:37 am)

hey kcram, any word on when the next gen ford ranger is coming out? I've heard rumors that their Australian division has already re-engineered their version of the ranger that could make its way here. why is it taking so long to redesign this truck. its like a 20 year old chassis.
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Re: I hope they don't let the F150 go the [obyone] by kdhspyder
Oct 03, 2007 (11:08 am)

Replying to: obyone (Oct 03, 2007 9:22 am)

way of the ranger. From class leading to the bottom of the heap with the last major redesign in 1998. Sometimes you just can't figure out what they are thinking.
 
Here's some additional background about the Ranger. There is now a Free Trade Agreement ( FTA ) with Thailand sitting waiting to be signed by both countries. So what.
 
Well Thailand is the 2nd largest producer of trucks in the world after the US. They make most of the trucks for Asia. The manufacturers are Toyota, Nissan, Ford !!! et al. The redesigned Ford Ranger diesel has been out in Asia for at least 2 yrs now. It's every bit as up-to-date as the Toyota HiLux diesel ( Tacoma ) which is considered the best truck in the world for most of the world. Nissan's diesel is also world class.
 
Why aren't these three world class diesels here already and why is Ford letting the Ranger and the St Paul plant wither away? Well when the FTA with Thailand is finally approved all those world class diesels will be free of the 25% 'chicken tax' and will be allowed to come here. There is no need to keep a UAW-controlled plant in existance if they can import more profitable up-to-date diesels.
 
One article from link
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Re: Watch the personal comments, please... [12ozcurls] by kcram HOST
Oct 03, 2007 (11:22 am)

Replying to: 12ozcurls (Oct 03, 2007 10:46 am)

I think Ford is content to leave the Ranger where it is, as it's now the only true "compact" truck - the Tacoma, Frontier, and Colorado/Canyon have all grown to the Dakota "midsize" class.
 
But since this is the half-ton discussion, I'd suggest drumming up some interest in the What would the ideal redesigned Ranger be like? discussion
 
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Did anyone see the CR test of the 4 major full-size players by drfill
Oct 06, 2007 (11:05 am)
From earlier this year?
 
   I thought the Chevy 5.3 would be much more efficient than that. Pretty decisive test!
  
   DrFill

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