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#237 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [gotoyota] by kdhspyder Oct 01, 2007 (7:25 pm)
Replying to: gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:12 am) The article simply says he never owned a Toyota or Lexus. It also says the only vehicle he owns is a Yamaha motorcycle, and I'm sure he doesn't ride that all the time. You guys crack me up - you'll grasp at anything. As an exec, you can bet your curls he drove a Toyota or Lexus as part of his compensation package He drove a Tacoma DblCab before he moved to NYC Corporate. At that time he switched to a Hybrid Camry Replies to this message: 12ozcurls (Oct 01, 2007 10:27 pm) kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2007 5:14 am)
#238 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [kdhspyder] by 12ozcurls Oct 01, 2007 (10:27 pm)
Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 01, 2007 7:25 pm) hehe...geeze you toyota guys are sens-a-tive...but anyway this back and forth is gettin boring. anyone got any weekend warrior stories? Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2007 5:14 am)
#239 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [12ozcurls] by kdhspyder Oct 02, 2007 (5:14 am)
Replying to: 12ozcurls (Oct 01, 2007 10:27 pm) Just facts.. it keeps the emotional outbursts in check and strangles exageration.
#240 of 333 Sept sales and 9 Mo's YTD by kdhspyder Oct 02, 2007 (12:48 pm)
F-Series .. 56100 .. 537,200 ( 616,800 ) - 12.9% Silverado.. 56900 .. 518,700 ( 525,200 ) - 1.2% Ram........ 30100 .. 277,000 ( 275,200 ) + 1.0% Sierra...... 18400 .. 157,200 ( 157,700 ) - 1.6% Tundra..... 19600 .. 144,500 ( 91,500 ) + 57.9% Titan......... 5200 .... 51,000 ( 56,300 ) - 9.4% The Silverado outsells the F-Seris this month but trails slightly for the year. The Tundra outsells the Sierra this month but trails slightly for the year. Overall the Tundra has gained 53,000 units but despite that the market has lost 39,000 units. It's mostly due to the retraction of Ford in the marketplace. That's a possible win/win situation??? Ford closed the Norfolk assembly plant and reduced it's costs dramatically at the cost of some sales. Those buyers seem to have migrated mostly to Toyota at a large financial windfall ( $500 million? ). Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Oct 02, 2007 2:10 pm) kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2007 4:40 pm)
#241 of 333 Re: Sept sales and 9 Mo's YTD [kdhspyder] by anythingbuttoy Oct 02, 2007 (2:10 pm)
Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2007 12:48 pm) This is more accurate: GMT800(classic)/GMT900 Sales: Sept. 75,300, YTD 682,400 How many "new" Tundra's have been sold YTD? I'm assuming the numbers you posted include all Tundra's sold this year, correct? Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2007 4:40 pm)
#242 of 333 Uh.....you're both incorrect by drfill Oct 02, 2007 (2:52 pm)
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gm- - news/viewmonthlyreleasedetail.do?domain=74&docid=40014 GM says they sold 52k in Sept, still down 2% YTD. The 56k includes Avalanche, a seperate model line. The 75k counts the Avalanche and GMC Sierra, a different marque altogether. DrFill Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Oct 02, 2007 3:02 pm)
#243 of 333 Re: Uh.....you're both incorrect [drfill] by anythingbuttoy Oct 02, 2007 (3:02 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Oct 02, 2007 2:52 pm) Spin it how you want Doc, the Silvy, Av and Sierra are ALL GM full size trucks. Just because Toyota only offers ONE truck, why should we only count ONE GM model? i.e. Tell me, doc, what truck do you suppose a Sierra buyer would buy if GM only had the Silvy? Any way you spin it though, 19K is still paultry in comparison.
#244 of 333 I may be the Doctor by drfill Oct 02, 2007 (3:23 pm)
But I can't spin like you. Olay! DrFill
#245 of 333 Re: Sept sales and 9 Mo's YTD [anythingbuttoy] by kdhspyder Oct 02, 2007 (4:40 pm)
Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 02, 2007 2:10 pm) Where did you get those screwy figures from? They are not in GM's press release. Now the problem for GM is those figures I posted ( Yes Dr they do include the Avalanche ) also include all the GMT800's ( Classic ) sold since the beginning of the year. This means that the GMT800's last year really kicked the hell out of the brand spanking new GMT900's. What is it about the new models that the buyers don't like? To get the sales of the 'New' Tundra you'd have to deduct Jan 07 sales and at least half of Feb 07 sales to get an accurate estimate. There were a few isolated 'Old' models left in March. This is even more important, in the mid-priced retail buyer segment which is the only small niche Toyota is really competing they may be way ahead of both the Ram and the Sierra and near the two biggies. Choosing the ground on which you want to do battle is often the first step to victory. It's also the most lucrative segment so that's the one to win.
#246 of 333 The correct monthly sales... by kcram HOST Oct 02, 2007 (5:06 pm)
...are posted here, every month: Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?? The Avalanche is an SUV and shares very little with the Silverado besides the 4 doors and windshield... it's a Suburban with its rear roof removed. kcram - Pickups Host Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Oct 02, 2007 5:17 pm) kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2007 6:08 pm) 1offroader (Oct 02, 2007 7:30 pm) kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2007 9:10 pm)