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#226 of 333 Re: Hate to interrupt.. [obyone] by paisan Sep 27, 2007 (5:03 am)
Replying to: obyone (Sep 26, 2007 11:05 pm) Diesel here in NY/NJ is generally .20-.30 cheaper than Gasoline. I like the idea of diesel and would pick one up in a heartbeat if they were more widespread -mike
#227 of 333 Re: Hate to interrupt.. [obyone] by bristol2 Sep 27, 2007 (6:06 am)
Replying to: obyone (Sep 26, 2007 11:05 pm) Good question (and surely not off-topic since this thread is mostly just 4 guys insulting each other). It's all about mpg. I put on ~25k miles per year for my job. Doing that at 28 mpg instead of 19-22mpg makes a huge difference to me. Also, I plan on keeping a truck for about 8 years, so at 25k miles per year for 8 years that puts 200k on the engine and I'm not sure that I trust a gas engine to do that with much confidence. Finally, why not get more torque out of a truck? Truck drivers in this country tend to be very conservative with truck capacity. In the rest of the world truck users would consider our 1/2 tons the heaviest duty available. It always surprises me to see a 3/4 ton or 1 ton being used to pull a boat for instance. With the exception of some farming and the guys who haul heavy construction equipment, 99% of truck buyers have more frame than they will ever need. I am not in any kind of heavy construction so I wouldn't be pulling 12k plus pound trailers so the frame limits (that I really do think are over-stated) would not impact me. Almost forgot, last point is that a diesel would open the opportunity for bio-diesel which I think is the only feasible way we are going to get out from under wars in the Middle East. Let those guys blow each other up if we can turn around waste product and algae into diesel! Replies to this message: 1offroader (Sep 27, 2007 7:15 pm)
#228 of 333 Thanks for the replies by obyone Sep 27, 2007 (1:51 pm)
I'll be looking for a new truck in a couple years and will keep that in mind. Only problem here diesel is $.20-.30 higher than regular.
#229 of 333 Re: Hate to interrupt.. [bristol2] by 1offroader Sep 27, 2007 (7:15 pm)
Replying to: bristol2 (Sep 27, 2007 6:06 am) bristol2 - good points, you hit the nail on the head. The benefit of diesel is mpg and longer engine life due to the HD nature of diesel engines generally, and the fact that they turn very low rpm, reducing wear and tear over the long run. I don't buy a truck to run 1/4 miles, or 0-60 times. That's juvenile stuff, outgrew that about 30 years ago (funny how some people never grow up). I want my truck to get decent mileage, be reliable, comfortable, and to take me and my family & friends and our stuff camping and hunting and fishing. I doubt I'll ever own a 10K lb. trailer, or yacht. And if I do, I'll be getting a 1-ton to drag it. 1offroader
#230 of 333 Dr. Fill this one's for you by obyone Sep 27, 2007 (10:03 pm)
Wow!! Replies to this message: 12ozcurls (Sep 27, 2007 11:02 pm) 1offroader (Sep 28, 2007 6:35 am) gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:28 am) gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:12 am) kdhspyder (Oct 01, 2007 7:25 pm) and 2 more...
#231 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [obyone] by 12ozcurls Sep 27, 2007 (11:02 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Sep 27, 2007 10:03 pm) hahahaaha....figures...also interesting is the link at the bottom of the page suggesting former Toyota president jim press worked for them for 30 years and never owned a Toyota or Lexus... Replies to this message: 1offroader (Sep 28, 2007 6:35 am) gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:28 am) gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:12 am) kdhspyder (Oct 01, 2007 7:25 pm) 12ozcurls (Oct 01, 2007 10:27 pm) and 1 more...
#232 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [12ozcurls] by 1offroader Sep 28, 2007 (6:35 am)
Replying to: 12ozcurls (Sep 27, 2007 11:02 pm) LOL on both counts!!! Amazing, the Big Kahuna Toyota guy never owned one. And he's a serious motor head. What does that say? He was pullin' down, what, maybe $3-5 mil a year at Toyota and couldn't even pop for a lousy $20K to buy a Camry or something? Even just to support his troops??? He spent more that that on lunches every year! Hey, but seriously, give the Toyota guys some credit. They know a great truck when they see it. Now, all they need to do is build one. New Toyota motto: "If you need a set of wheels, give Tundra a look. If you need a truck to do some work, don't do what we say, do what we do". 1offroader Replies to this message: gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:28 am)
#233 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [12ozcurls] by gotoyota Sep 28, 2007 (7:12 am)
Replying to: 12ozcurls (Sep 27, 2007 11:02 pm) Try to hold back your excitement, 12oz'er. The article simply says he never owned a Toyota or Lexus. It also says the only vehicle he owns is a Yamaha motorcycle, and I'm sure he doesn't ride that all the time. You guys crack me up - you'll grasp at anything. As an exec, you can bet your curls he drove a Toyota or Lexus as part of his compensation package. If he drove anything but a Toyota/Lexus while he was with Toyota, it would have received all kinds of airtime and this would not be the first time you would have heard about it, as seems to be the case. As for the Silverado towing the Toyota trailer, I guess it looks funny, but I don't see the big surprise here. The Tundra is only a half ton, as y'all are so fond of pointing out. By the way, I've found several articles about a 750 lb/ft Tundra HD coming as an '09-'10 model. Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Oct 01, 2007 7:25 pm) 12ozcurls (Oct 01, 2007 10:27 pm) kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2007 5:14 am)
#234 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [1offroader] by gotoyota Sep 28, 2007 (7:28 am)
Replying to: 1offroader (Sep 28, 2007 6:35 am) Actually, Toyota Exec's are compensated much less than execs at other automakers. Money talks - if you read the articles that are out there, there are several references to the fact that Cerberus (the owners of Chrysler) went after Press HARD and offered a huge raise. They also successfully courted and won the heart (and wallet) of the VP of marketing (I think) from Lexus. It's not because Toyota is a sinking ship, it's about the MONEY. It's a little disappointing in a way, because I like Jim Press a lot and think he did a lot of good for Toyota. Hopefully he will have the same lattitude at Chrysler and be able to drive some healthy changes, starting with the UGLY designs of most of their new cars (except the 300).
#235 of 333 Not the place... by kcram HOST Sep 28, 2007 (8:28 pm)
...for what executives drive and get paid... head to the Automotive News and Views Board for that kcram - Pickups Host