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#223 of 333 Re: Damn! [drfill] by anythingbuttoy Sep 26, 2007 (4:48 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Sep 26, 2007 3:56 pm) So you really are a car salesman then. Got it! Replies to this message: 1offroader (Sep 26, 2007 6:43 pm)
#224 of 333 Re: Damn! [anythingbuttoy] by 1offroader Sep 26, 2007 (6:43 pm)
Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Sep 26, 2007 4:48 pm) All, Every year, there is a poll published that ranks jobs in terms of overall respect by the public. Typically, scientists, engineers, doctors rank very high. And every year, politicians, lawyers rank lowest. And who ranks lowest of all EVERY YEAR??? Car salesmen (aka "sales consultants"), that's who! No kidding! Doubt it? Google it! So, let's not rag too badly on the car salesmen of the world. They have a heavy burden to bear, right from the git go. Hey, it's a sucky job, and no one likes them, but someone's got to do it. Like taking out the trash, & cleaning up after the dog ..... 1offroader
#225 of 333 Re: Hate to interrupt.. [bristol2] by obyone Sep 26, 2007 (11:05 pm)
Replying to: bristol2 (Sep 26, 2007 12:01 pm) Not to take us too far off topic but I'm curious as to why would anyone want a diesel in a half ton truck? There are costs associated with a diesel one being the upfront purchase cost to justify whatever mileage increase. There was a time where diesel was a lot cheaper at the pump but that no longer applies. I can understand having a diesel in a one ton truck but in a half ton I'm kind of at a loss as the gain in mpg would be hard to justify against the cost of a diesel plus the frame limitations in a half ton. Sorry for the off topic post. I know a few car salespersons that make over a $100K a year though that is not the norm. I admit it is a tough profession and wouldn't care to pursue it as a career. I also noticed that they are all thick skinned like some that post here..... Replies to this message: paisan (Sep 27, 2007 5:03 am) bristol2 (Sep 27, 2007 6:06 am) 1offroader (Sep 27, 2007 7:15 pm)
#226 of 333 Re: Hate to interrupt.. [obyone] by paisan Sep 27, 2007 (5:03 am)
Replying to: obyone (Sep 26, 2007 11:05 pm) Diesel here in NY/NJ is generally .20-.30 cheaper than Gasoline. I like the idea of diesel and would pick one up in a heartbeat if they were more widespread -mike
#227 of 333 Re: Hate to interrupt.. [obyone] by bristol2 Sep 27, 2007 (6:06 am)
Replying to: obyone (Sep 26, 2007 11:05 pm) Good question (and surely not off-topic since this thread is mostly just 4 guys insulting each other). It's all about mpg. I put on ~25k miles per year for my job. Doing that at 28 mpg instead of 19-22mpg makes a huge difference to me. Also, I plan on keeping a truck for about 8 years, so at 25k miles per year for 8 years that puts 200k on the engine and I'm not sure that I trust a gas engine to do that with much confidence. Finally, why not get more torque out of a truck? Truck drivers in this country tend to be very conservative with truck capacity. In the rest of the world truck users would consider our 1/2 tons the heaviest duty available. It always surprises me to see a 3/4 ton or 1 ton being used to pull a boat for instance. With the exception of some farming and the guys who haul heavy construction equipment, 99% of truck buyers have more frame than they will ever need. I am not in any kind of heavy construction so I wouldn't be pulling 12k plus pound trailers so the frame limits (that I really do think are over-stated) would not impact me. Almost forgot, last point is that a diesel would open the opportunity for bio-diesel which I think is the only feasible way we are going to get out from under wars in the Middle East. Let those guys blow each other up if we can turn around waste product and algae into diesel! Replies to this message: 1offroader (Sep 27, 2007 7:15 pm)
#228 of 333 Thanks for the replies by obyone Sep 27, 2007 (1:51 pm)
I'll be looking for a new truck in a couple years and will keep that in mind. Only problem here diesel is $.20-.30 higher than regular.
#229 of 333 Re: Hate to interrupt.. [bristol2] by 1offroader Sep 27, 2007 (7:15 pm)
Replying to: bristol2 (Sep 27, 2007 6:06 am) bristol2 - good points, you hit the nail on the head. The benefit of diesel is mpg and longer engine life due to the HD nature of diesel engines generally, and the fact that they turn very low rpm, reducing wear and tear over the long run. I don't buy a truck to run 1/4 miles, or 0-60 times. That's juvenile stuff, outgrew that about 30 years ago (funny how some people never grow up). I want my truck to get decent mileage, be reliable, comfortable, and to take me and my family & friends and our stuff camping and hunting and fishing. I doubt I'll ever own a 10K lb. trailer, or yacht. And if I do, I'll be getting a 1-ton to drag it. 1offroader
#230 of 333 Dr. Fill this one's for you by obyone Sep 27, 2007 (10:03 pm)
Wow!! Replies to this message: 12ozcurls (Sep 27, 2007 11:02 pm) 1offroader (Sep 28, 2007 6:35 am) gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:28 am) gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:12 am) kdhspyder (Oct 01, 2007 7:25 pm) and 2 more...
#231 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [obyone] by 12ozcurls Sep 27, 2007 (11:02 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Sep 27, 2007 10:03 pm) hahahaaha....figures...also interesting is the link at the bottom of the page suggesting former Toyota president jim press worked for them for 30 years and never owned a Toyota or Lexus... Replies to this message: 1offroader (Sep 28, 2007 6:35 am) gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:28 am) gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:12 am) kdhspyder (Oct 01, 2007 7:25 pm) 12ozcurls (Oct 01, 2007 10:27 pm) and 1 more...
#232 of 333 Re: Dr. Fill this one's for you [12ozcurls] by 1offroader Sep 28, 2007 (6:35 am)
Replying to: 12ozcurls (Sep 27, 2007 11:02 pm) LOL on both counts!!! Amazing, the Big Kahuna Toyota guy never owned one. And he's a serious motor head. What does that say? He was pullin' down, what, maybe $3-5 mil a year at Toyota and couldn't even pop for a lousy $20K to buy a Camry or something? Even just to support his troops??? He spent more that that on lunches every year! Hey, but seriously, give the Toyota guys some credit. They know a great truck when they see it. Now, all they need to do is build one. New Toyota motto: "If you need a set of wheels, give Tundra a look. If you need a truck to do some work, don't do what we say, do what we do". 1offroader Replies to this message: gotoyota (Sep 28, 2007 7:28 am)