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#204 of 333 Re: I know you're not tellin' me [1offroader] by drfill Sep 25, 2007 (5:00 am)
Replying to: 1offroader (Sep 24, 2007 7:06 pm) If the lesson is over, hopefully you've learned something! The final drive ratios and gearing are factors, but far from the final chapter in the story of fuel economy. The chances of a Tundra driver with a 6-speed and a Silvy driver with a 4-speed getting the same economy are slim, factoring in vehicle weight, power/torque curves, engine technology available, aerodynamic drag, driving conditions, driver input, road conditions, drivetrain applications, payload/towing usage, etc. Maybe you should tell me you want a 4-speed instead and be done with it. The comparison does mean zip, because you are better off with the 6-speed for both acceleration and/or economy purposes, depending on your needs, if you are of normal intellect. The fantasy island you live in, where every factor will be equal between two unequal trucks, is ready for YouTube, but not a serious discussion. If you want 4-speeds please, take the 4-speed! Just don't advertise it as something of any particular value against a better tranny. I'm trying to give you some credit here..... DrFill Replies to this message: dennisplus (Sep 25, 2007 6:48 am) anythingbuttoy (Sep 25, 2007 5:10 pm)
#205 of 333 Re: I know you're not tellin' me [drfill] by dennisplus Sep 25, 2007 (6:48 am)
Replying to: drfill (Sep 25, 2007 5:00 am) Hey doctor. Who do you think you are. Even the host of this disscusion said gear ratios have a lot to do with it. It looks like you just base your info on what your buddies at the dealership say. LEARN SOMETHING! Doctor? I think not.
#206 of 333 For those who don't read this forum regularly by drfill Sep 25, 2007 (10:52 am)
Or read much period, this being the 3rd time I've posted this, I am not a car salesman. And, to repeat, no two trucks are alike, or will be treated alike. Therefore gear ratios are a factor, but not the final factor, in acceleration and/or economy. If you want a 4-speed over a 6-speed in your vehicle, raise your hand and be counted. DrFill Replies to this message: obyone (Sep 25, 2007 11:24 am) 12ozcurls (Sep 25, 2007 1:44 pm) anythingbuttoy (Sep 25, 2007 3:55 pm) and 4 more... 1offroader (Sep 25, 2007 6:24 pm)
#207 of 333 Re: For those who don't read this forum regularly [drfill] by obyone Sep 25, 2007 (11:24 am)
Replying to: drfill (Sep 25, 2007 10:52 am) " I am not a car salesman. " Ooooooook if you say so.....seriously doubt anyone will believe you. Oh that's right you're a TOYOTA SALESPERSON.... Replies to this message: 12ozcurls (Sep 25, 2007 1:44 pm) anythingbuttoy (Sep 25, 2007 3:55 pm) toykicks (Sep 25, 2007 5:02 pm) 12ozcurls (Sep 25, 2007 6:47 pm) and 2 more...
#208 of 333 Re: For those who don't read this forum regularly [obyone] by 12ozcurls Sep 25, 2007 (1:44 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Sep 25, 2007 11:24 am) Toyota vs. Nissan vs. Ford vs. Dodge..bla bla bla....who cares, everyone knows, lifted CHEVY'S get the girls... Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Sep 25, 2007 3:55 pm) toykicks (Sep 25, 2007 5:02 pm) 12ozcurls (Sep 25, 2007 6:47 pm) toykicks (Sep 25, 2007 11:33 pm) and 1 more...
#209 of 333 Re: For those who don't read this forum regularly [12ozcurls] by anythingbuttoy Sep 25, 2007 (3:55 pm)
Replying to: 12ozcurls (Sep 25, 2007 1:44 pm) Yeah, but you know what they say about guys who lift their trucks..... Replies to this message: toykicks (Sep 25, 2007 5:02 pm) 12ozcurls (Sep 25, 2007 6:47 pm) toykicks (Sep 25, 2007 11:33 pm) 12ozcurls (Sep 26, 2007 2:53 am)
#210 of 333 Re: For those who don't read this forum regularly [anythingbuttoy] by toykicks Sep 25, 2007 (5:02 pm)
Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Sep 25, 2007 3:55 pm) lol i love edmunds... So many car enthusiasts.. Well ok lets see doesnt the chevy silverado 5.3 have cylinder deactivation of some sort? like dodge? Toyota doesnt have this on their 380hp tundra and gets the same or better mpg towing or not towing then a 5.3 vortec with 4.10 gears. Gears do matter but so does the engine . I would like to see GM put out their direct injected engines out already to see how they line up against toyotas direct injected. I dont expect much from toyotas specs for the 5.7 direct injected landcruiser since they are sand baggers. It'll be an interesting match when ford and dodge come out with their new redesigned 1/2 tons Cant wait for SEMA either
#211 of 333 Re: I know you're not tellin' me [drfill] by anythingbuttoy Sep 25, 2007 (5:10 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Sep 25, 2007 5:00 am) "If you want 4-speeds please, take the 4-speed! Just don't advertise it as something of any particular value against a better tranny." Better tranny? Why, beacuse it has 2 more gears? Well, maybe if the reliability was there too, but since it's NOT, then I'd say the proven reliable 4 spd is the "better" tranny. You may want to spend some time over at TS convincing all of the several posters/owners who have had their 6 spds replaced, some more than once, and others with problematic replacements. Good luck!!! Let me guess, your dealership has not seen any of these failed trannys yet have they?
#212 of 333 Re: For those who don't read this forum regularly [drfill] by 1offroader Sep 25, 2007 (6:24 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Sep 25, 2007 10:52 am) OK, so are you a "Toyota Salesperson"? Or a "Toyota Motors Sales Consultant"? Do you now, or have you ever, sold Toyota vehicles? Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion. Especially if you're a car salesman. 1offroader
#213 of 333 Re: For those who don't read this forum regularly [anythingbuttoy] by 12ozcurls Sep 25, 2007 (6:47 pm)
Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Sep 25, 2007 3:55 pm) um...that they like to go offroad? oh and they get the chicks.. Replies to this message: toykicks (Sep 25, 2007 11:33 pm) 12ozcurls (Sep 26, 2007 2:53 am)