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#161 of 333 Re: ABT [drfill] by anythingbuttoy Sep 21, 2007 (11:13 am)
Replying to: drfill (Sep 21, 2007 11:03 am) You have no numbers to back that up, so it is purely speculation on your part. Oh, and let's say it is (which it isn't), who cares!!!??? The Sierra's and Silvy's are the SAME TRUCK...hence the name "GMT900". To split off the sales number is just a spin to make the Tundra's look better. Ford has been doing it for years too. The bottom line is, aside from cosmetic sheet metal and trim variances, they are identical and share all of the same components, are assembled on the same line using the same equipment. You could literally take a Silvy apart and a Sierra apart, mix up the parts randomly, and reassemble them. So, again, I ask you, does the Tundra also outsell red Silvy's too? What truck do you think a Sierra buyer would have bought if the Sierra was not available? Which truck do you think a Silvy buyer would have bought if a Silvy was not available? I rest my case. Let's talk sales numbers when Toyota sells as many 1/2 tons as GM/F/D and at least has more than one 1/2 ton truck in their line-up. Bringing a Tundra into the American truck segment is like a little league baseball player bringing his ball and glove to a MLB game and asking if he can play too.
#162 of 333 I guess that answers by drfill Sep 21, 2007 (11:20 am)
Whether you read the link or not. Moving on.... DrFill Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Sep 21, 2007 11:28 am)
#163 of 333 Re: I guess that answers [drfill] by anythingbuttoy Sep 21, 2007 (11:28 am)
Replying to: drfill (Sep 15, 2007 10:23 am) Do you know the meaning of the word "estimated"? Maybe you need to re-read the article YOU posted. Oh, and I have heard that Toyota counts sales based on production, not actual sales to end user. The big 3 don't count a sale until it's actually sold to a customer, not a dealer. So, now figure out how many Tundra's are sitting on the lots and subtract that from their sales total, then compare again.
#164 of 333 Re: Now, GT, you have to admit [drfill] by 12ozcurls Sep 21, 2007 (12:47 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Sep 21, 2007 8:24 am) yeah people are gettin snowed. you always hear about the tests and the awards but u never hear about the problems..or the criminal investigations... wonder why that is? Guess nobody is perfect eh? http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/01/toyota_sludge_settlement.html http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/10/toyota_quality.html http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/07/toyota_recalls_reax.html http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/07/toyota_recall_probe.html http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/07/toyota_recalls.html Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Sep 21, 2007 12:54 pm)
#165 of 333 Re: Now, GT, you have to admit [12ozcurls] by anythingbuttoy Sep 21, 2007 (12:54 pm)
Replying to: 12ozcurls (Sep 21, 2007 12:47 pm) I love this quote by Toyota's President: "We view GM as a great entity, from which we have a lot to learn," Watanabe said, adding Toyota wanted to maintain its 22-year-old, California-based car assembly plant which it operates with GM. "We want to keep this relationship going."
#166 of 333 2006 tundra oil pressure issues by etothexdx Sep 21, 2007 (8:02 pm)
I have a 4.0 v6 2006 SR5 Tundra. Each time I start the truck it takes the oil pressure guage almost 6 seconds before it will register. In other words, after I start the engine, the guage reads zero pressure for about 6 seconds then it will shoot up to about midway. Has anyone else had this experience?
#167 of 333 Re: Toyota Tundra v. Dodge Ram [tundrahq] by etothexdx Sep 21, 2007 (8:09 pm)
Replying to: tundrahq (Apr 13, 2007 4:00 pm) I have a 4.0 v6 2006 SR5 Tundra. Each time I start the truck it takes the oil pressure guage almost 6 seconds before it will register. In other words, after I start the engine, the guage reads zero pressure for about 6 seconds then it will shoot up to about midway. Has anyone else had this experience?
#168 of 333 Re: Noooo... say it isn't so... [obyone] by etothexdx Sep 21, 2007 (8:23 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Sep 11, 2007 5:13 pm) Perhaps one should do some research on the benefits of box-steel frames. Dodge has been doing this for some time and now the new Tundra has it as well. In short, it reduces flex thereby giving a more rigid structure. Do you guys remember the old unibody (frameless) cars like the AMC Rambler? That was one sweet ride. Replies to this message: obyone (Sep 21, 2007 8:45 pm) etothexdx (Sep 22, 2007 7:37 am) anythingbuttoy (Sep 22, 2007 6:39 am)
#169 of 333 Re: Noooo... say it isn't so... [etothexdx] by obyone Sep 21, 2007 (8:45 pm)
Replying to: etothexdx (Sep 21, 2007 8:23 pm) Sir are you inferring that the current new '07+ Tundras have fully boxed steel frames? I beg to differ. Replies to this message: etothexdx (Sep 22, 2007 7:37 am)
#170 of 333 Re: Noooo... say it isn't so... [etothexdx] by anythingbuttoy Sep 22, 2007 (6:39 am)
Replying to: etothexdx (Sep 21, 2007 8:23 pm) Perhaps one should do some research on the benefits of box-steel frames. Dodge has been doing this for some time and now the new Tundra has it as well. In short, it reduces flex thereby giving a more rigid structure. Do you guys remember the old unibody (frameless) cars like the AMC Rambler? That was one sweet ride. Perhaps you should practice what you preach, the new Tundra's do NOT have a fully boxed frame, they have the "TripleTech" (haha) frame. Boxed up front, and c-channel the rest of the way back (cab area is reinforced C). They also do not use hydroforming in their mfg process. Oh, and they chose to rivet the non-boxed crossmembers in. Nice!!!