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Re: Everything's a gimmick [maryh3] by dennisctc
Dec 11, 2007 (7:06 am)

Replying to: maryh3 (Dec 11, 2007 6:33 am)

I think about 98% of all extras you can add to all autos are gimmicks.
 
Someone's gimmick is another person's necessity. I never needed a power rear hatch, til I bought my 2005 DCX and it was on it. Who can't open and close their own doors right? Well when you have months of Michigan grime on it, and don't want to touch it, or your hands are full - I DO NOW!!!
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Re: Everything's a gimmick [dennisctc] by thegraduate
Dec 11, 2007 (8:00 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Dec 11, 2007 7:06 am)

So true.
 
Who needs variable speed intermittent windshield wipers? Who needs automatic headlights? Who needs power pedals? A DVD player? Remote start?
 
I think I could be truly happy with a car if it had power steering and brakes, a radio, and A/C. Having all the extras is nice, but wasn't a necessity until I actually had them. Now, I have a hard time thinking about stepping into a car without it being at least as nice as the one I have.
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Re: Everything's a gimmick [maryh3] by hansienna
Dec 11, 2007 (9:50 am)

Replying to: maryh3 (Dec 11, 2007 6:33 am)

NOT in my opinion.
 
ABSOLUTE necessities for us are: A Minivan with Front and Rear Heating and Air Conditioning, tachometer, separately controlled temperature for driver and front passenger, power steering and power brakes, power front windows and power rear side vents, 60/40 split fold into the floor 3rd row seat, fold down armrests in 2nd row seats, and deep tinted windows (sliding doors, rear side windows, rear window).
 
Gimmicks for us: Power sliding doors and power rear hatch, roll down windows in sliding doors, leather interior, NAV, RES, Stow 'N Go, Swivel 'N Go, power moon/sun roof, MY Gig, satellite radio and or TV, rear back up camera, tire pressure monitoring system, remote start, roof rack, leather wrapped shift knob, auto-dimming mirrors, cast wheels, leather seats, heated seats, power seats with memory, PAX or run flat tires, center floor console (s), fog lamps, daytime driving lights, wood grain style trim on dash and or doors, fold flat front passenger seat, dynamic laser cruise control, optitron gauges, blue tooth controls, auto dimming headlights, HID headlights, MP3 auxilliary input, 360 watt stereo with sub woofer, and VCM.
 
Nice to have but NOT necessary: AT with more than 4 forward speeds, outside temperature/compass and trip computer. (An AT with more than 6 forward speeds is a gimmick in my opinion).
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Re: Everything's a gimmick [hansienna] by bobw3
Dec 11, 2007 (10:35 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Dec 11, 2007 9:50 am)

I agree with you!
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Gimmicks vs Essentials by maryh3
Dec 11, 2007 (2:18 pm)
What is one persons gimmick is anothers "requirement". They all are nonessentials only necessary for comfort and convenience. Why one persons "essentials" are better than anothers is beyond me. Who is to determine whether something is worth it or not? The biggest gimmick stated here - "swivel seats", I hope benefits us with more essential family time that can be obtained by sitting around a table and playing cards, or perhaps even eating. Better yet maybe they will do homework on it which will give us more quality family time after the homework is done. Better than taking a trip with 4 kids isolated from eachother with i-pods in their ears and game boys in their faces. I'd rather a closer knit family than having that absolute perfect temperature blowing right on me alone.
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Re: Gimmicks vs Essentials [maryh3] by dennisctc
Dec 11, 2007 (2:51 pm)

Replying to: maryh3 (Dec 11, 2007 2:18 pm)

I remember a conversation once with a Visteon engineer who worked on rear seat entertainment systems. He told me whenever he has his children with him in the minivan, that the DVD player is off unless it's a really long roadtrip/vacation. He wanted to be with them, talking, laughing etc...not just having the children watching the screen. I like his reasoning alot!!
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Re: Price Tracking [ateixeira] by dennisctc
Dec 11, 2007 (3:04 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 30, 2007 9:26 am)

The 2008 Odyssey is a refresh, new VCM for the engine, minor face-lift. That's probably why the 2007s are a bargain.
 
Wow!!! was looking at the Prices Paid for Odys recently....looks like the 07s are going for $4000-$5000+ off MSRP, and they've still got plenty on the lots it seems!! Honda's really trying for bragging rights as the #1 minivan for 07 even if they have to overbuild and give em away. Just have to wonder what this does to resale values longer term? People trying to sell used Hondas etc....
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Re: Everything's a gimmick [hansienna] by colloquor
Dec 11, 2007 (3:05 pm)

Replying to: hansienna (Dec 11, 2007 9:50 am)

Rear HVAC in a minivan is great, until you start having problems with the heater core, evap, or the hoses running back to all of this. It adds complexity, and eventual repair costs, but it sure is nice when it works!
 
I for one like to keep it simple, similar to my old '90 Honda Civic . . . roll up windows, no power steering (didn't need it), stick, and only a few minor options. The more esoteric stuff they put on vehicles, the more there is to go wrong, and even more importantly, when they do fail, it costs big money for the repair. On the other hand, I think it's impossible to buy a minivan today with roll up windows - or, practically any other vehicle for that matter.
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Re: Everything's a gimmick [maryh3] by radar1
Dec 11, 2007 (4:40 pm)

Replying to: maryh3 (Dec 11, 2007 6:33 am)

I remember when I was younger and read car ads that had the abbreviation "R&H". That meant it had a radio and heater, which I assume many would have considered "gimmicks" at one time.
Several "gimmicks" that became new to me during my driving years but I would not want to do without are air conditioning, cruise control, power steering, seat belts and the list goes on.
The "stow and go" seats on the Caravan/T&C vans are a strong selling point to me since there are times that I need to carry large loads one way and carry lots of people after I get there.
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Re: Gimmicks vs Essentials [maryh3] by bobw3
Dec 11, 2007 (6:39 pm)

Replying to: maryh3 (Dec 11, 2007 2:18 pm)

perhaps even eating. Better yet maybe they will do homework on it which will give us more quality family time after the homework is done
 
just don't stop too fast!!

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