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Replying to: hansienna (Dec 07, 2007 10:15 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 08, 2007 2:15 am)  As I recall the 2nd row seats looked alike except there is NO armrest on any 2nd row seat of the 8 passenger models. 
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Replying to: marine2 (Dec 04, 2007 1:12 pm) The 3rd row seats are more comfortable than the 2nd row seats in my Sienna but the driver's seat is THE most comfortable of all. 
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Replying to: hansienna (Dec 07, 2007 6:56 pm) I measured, too, since I have the 8 seat model Sienna. As hansienna mentioned, my floor pan is completely different. None of my 2nd row seats are interchangeable with any of his 2nd row seats. Mine lack the arm rests, as he mentioned, and are also set farther apart, so the middle seat can be bigger (adult sized, no 175 lb limit here). I measured at the floor, 2nd row tumbled forward (all 3, including middle), and got 76.5" front to rear. That 1.5" more than hans measured may be due to where exactly we measured from - I measured from the black metal bar under the seat, which limits how far forward you could move furniture. He may have measured at the base of the trim for the seat mount, or perhaps the 7 seat models simply position them a bit differently. From the back of the tumbled seats, I measured that part that was farthest back, i.e. what would limit your cargo length. There I measured 69" front to back, same as hans measured. My guess is our tracks are lined up front to back, but I believe the 8 pass model's are farther apart, i.e. wider. hans - can you do one more quick measurement? I want to test that theory. Measure the total width of the 2nd row seats, from the outer most part of one side, to the outer most part of the other, at the seat base. I measured a total of 57.5" total width for all 3 seats in the 2nd row. I'll ask the same for any Ody owner - can you measure the total width for all 3 seats? I ask because the Ody is the only other 8 seater currently available that I know of. Thanks in advance.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 08, 2007 9:47 am) According to the manufacturer's websites, the Sienna has 149CuFt of cargo space behind the 1sr row and the T&C has 144CuFt, so 5CuFt less. If you lose one foot of length due to the tumbled seats, then says that's 1'x4'x4' or about 16CuFt, or about 11CuFt more for the T&C...not too much, but really what matters is how long the T&C floor is? Anyone care to measure... |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 08, 2007 9:47 am) There is 5 inches between each armrest and the door when the armrest is in the horizontal position. I measured a distance of 56 inches from outer edge of arm rest to the outer edge of the other arm rest. I measured almost 69 inches width from door to door in 2nd row at seat cushion height. (That would give each of 3 passengers 23 inches space). Based on my measurements and ateixeira's measurements, each 2nd row bucket seat of the 7 passenger Sienna is slightly wider than each 2nd row bucket seat in the 8 passenger Sienna. HOWEVER, there is probably a difference in how we take the measurements.
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Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 08, 2007 10:04 am) The Sienna is the widest in the rear section, so it makes some of that up. In C&D I believe it was a good 4 inches wider than any other van. Part of the reason is the spare goes underneath, I believe Honda for instance puts the spare on the rear side, inside the van, and that eats up some of the width.
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Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 08, 2007 10:04 am) If the Sienna 2nd row seats are removed, the maximum length for cargo at floor level would be approximately the same for the Sienna and T&C. Chrysler wins for most convenient maximum floor length for cargo and ease of side access for a wheel chair while Sienna wins for the Nicest looking interior, most comfortable 3rd row seats, and most cargo space behind 3rd row seat.
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Replying to: hansienna (Dec 08, 2007 10:06 am) At the seat base your total width is 22.5 + 10.25 + 22.5 = 55.25" width. So mine adds a bit over an inch on each side plus uses slightly more narrow outboard seats to make room for that middle seat. Shoot, now I gotta go measure again...  My seats are 20.25 + 17 + 20.25 = 57.5" width. And yes the seats touch. I measured my, um, seat bottom, LOL, and it fits in any of those 3 seats. I'm about 215 lbs so we can call it adult sized.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 08, 2007 10:10 am) The Odyssey has the spare tire located inside the vehicle at the left rear which is more easily accessed. The Sienna spare tire is under the right floor between the 2nd row seat and front passenger seat while the T&C/GC spare is under the right front passenger seat.
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