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Replying to: marine2 (Dec 04, 2007 3:58 pm) No, actually, you would not lose any floor-to-ceiling height on the Toyota. As I mentioned earlier, the seats fold and tumble forward, up against the front seats. You would lose a foot or so of cargo length, front to back, but you will not lose any height at all. The items you mentioned would fit easily in the Toyota. Here's a wild suggestion - maybe try a Sienna?  Just kidding, though it might not hurt you to take a closer look at some competitors if you're going to talk about them often. Comfort is subjective On that we agree. I'd even go a step further, not only is comfort subjective, it's subjective for each individual, because we are all shaped differently. Example: people RAVE about the Recaro seats in the Mistubishi Evo, but I *hate* them and simply do not fit in them at all. To me they are completely unacceptable. To others they are the best seats in the industry. Totally subjective and individual.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 05, 2007 9:26 am) Additionally, the passenger side 2nd row seat of my 06 Sienna was installed incorrectly at the Toyota factory. I am not impressed with Toyota quality. 
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Replying to: hansienna (Dec 05, 2007 3:49 pm)
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Replying to: hause7 (Dec 05, 2007 4:25 pm) I LIKE the VERY comfortable driver's seat, largest cargo space behind the 3rd row seat, and the good gas mileage of my 06 Sienna. I also like my closest Toyota dealer who promptly sent me a 2008 Sienna brochure when I requested one on a routine customer service questionaire from the dealership. The Sienna is a very nice minivan and I have NEVER called the Sienna "garbage". 
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| Guess they're serious about hanging onto #1 minivan slot, if you don't total T&C numbers into it? I just built new T&C Limited and noticed $2000 rebate!! If they add another grand, and I get my buddy's employee discount, I might just bite. | |
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Replying to: hansienna (Dec 05, 2007 3:49 pm) I was talking about tumbling the seats forward, not removing them. The entire conversation was about how much you could haul home if you could not remove the seats. It is very easy to tumble the seats forward. One knob to recline the seats, another knob to tumble them. They are spring-loaded so the process is very easy. What you are left with is a cargo area that gives up a little bit of length (about a foot, I'd guess), but you give up no height at all. The furniture haulding we were talking about would be no problem whatsoever. I know you feel the need to chime in repeatedly about the issues you have with your seats but can you ask at least wait until an appropriate (relevant) time? I think that's fair to ask. Thanks in advance.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 07, 2007 9:09 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 07, 2007 4:35 pm) Maximum length AT FLOOR level when 2nd row seats are folded and tumbled forward is 75 inches at floor level and 69 inches to back of tumbled 2nd row seat at 20 inches off the floor ( a loss of 20 inches length). Maximum length with 2nd row seat FOLDED (but not tumbled) with front passenger seat folded flat is 127 inches for an object up to 35 inches wide and 22 inches high if the item is placed on top of the folded front and right side 2nd row passenger seat folded flat. There is NO 2nd row bench seat in current Siennas. .
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Replying to: hansienna (Dec 07, 2007 6:56 pm)
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