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What is this discussion about? Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Dodge Caravan, Hyundai Entourage, Mazda MAZDA5, Kia Sedona, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Van


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Re: The point, though... [mfletou1] by marine2
Dec 04, 2007 (3:58 pm)

Replying to: mfletou1 (Dec 04, 2007 2:57 pm)

My daughter's SUV seats fold over and because of that, she can't get those things in because there was not enough room from seat backs to ceiling. You can lose 4-6 inches that way that you don't lose with stow-n-go. I am sure it would be the same with the Toyota and Honda, as thick as those seat backs are..
 
Comfort is subjective. Most of the time, you would never set back there anyway. If seat comfort in the middle row is more important to you than storage and the convenience of hauling big stuff, than you have a lot of choices of what to buy. If comfortable, but firmer seats is ok in the second row and storage and convenience of hauling big stuff without pulling seats out and re installing them, stow-n-go is the only choice you have. All depends on what you use your van for. It's obvious, most people haul not much more than people in theirs.
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carseats and seat angle? by bobw3
Dec 05, 2007 (9:24 am)
how well do rear-facing infant car seats fit into the T&C because from the photos, the seats angle up a lot? Anyone with experience? In my Freestyle, the second row seat is pretty horizontal, so the car seat fits great, but I was wondering on these really angled seats like the T&C, is there's some seat bottom adjustment to make them horizontal?
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Re: The point, though... [marine2] by ateixeira
Dec 05, 2007 (9:26 am)

Replying to: marine2 (Dec 04, 2007 3:58 pm)

You can lose 4-6 inches that way that you don't lose with stow-n-go. I am sure it would be the same with the Toyota
 
No, actually, you would not lose any floor-to-ceiling height on the Toyota.
 
As I mentioned earlier, the seats fold and tumble forward, up against the front seats. You would lose a foot or so of cargo length, front to back, but you will not lose any height at all.
 
The items you mentioned would fit easily in the Toyota.
 
Here's a wild suggestion - maybe try a Sienna?
 
Just kidding, though it might not hurt you to take a closer look at some competitors if you're going to talk about them often.
 
Comfort is subjective
 
On that we agree.
 
I'd even go a step further, not only is comfort subjective, it's subjective for each individual, because we are all shaped differently.
 
Example: people RAVE about the Recaro seats in the Mistubishi Evo, but I *hate* them and simply do not fit in them at all. To me they are completely unacceptable. To others they are the best seats in the industry.
 
Totally subjective and individual.
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Re: The point, though... [ateixeira] by hansienna
Dec 05, 2007 (3:49 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 05, 2007 9:26 am)

The 2006 Sienna LE 2nd row seats are DIFFICULT to remove and replace compared to the Quad seats of my 2002 T&C LX. They are also NOT as comfortable as the T&C LX 2nd row seats or the Odyssey 2nd row seats.
 
Additionally, the passenger side 2nd row seat of my 06 Sienna was installed incorrectly at the Toyota factory. I am not impressed with Toyota quality.
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Re: The point, though... [hansienna] by hause7
Dec 05, 2007 (4:25 pm)

Replying to: hansienna (Dec 05, 2007 3:49 pm)

You are the only person i know that does not like their Sienna. Why not get rid of it if it is garbage to you? all you do is complain about it. That is why we got rid of our previous Town&country, we complained on it's horrible quality and leaving my grandmother stranded more than once with under 30,000 miles. I personally think seat comfort of the Sienna is the best then the Odyssey, than the Town&country.
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Re: The point, though... [hause7] by hansienna
Dec 05, 2007 (8:27 pm)

Replying to: hause7 (Dec 05, 2007 4:25 pm)

The point is that the Sienna is NO better and NO worse than the Odyssey, T&C, or GC. Each has advantages and disadvantages as I have described more than once.
 
I LIKE the VERY comfortable driver's seat, largest cargo space behind the 3rd row seat, and the good gas mileage of my 06 Sienna. I also like my closest Toyota dealer who promptly sent me a 2008 Sienna brochure when I requested one on a routine customer service questionaire from the dealership.
 
The Sienna is a very nice minivan and I have NEVER called the Sienna "garbage".
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Chrysler has upped the rebates by dennisctc
Dec 06, 2007 (2:43 pm)
Guess they're serious about hanging onto #1 minivan slot, if you don't total T&C numbers into it? I just built new T&C Limited and noticed $2000 rebate!! If they add another grand, and I get my buddy's employee discount, I might just bite.
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Re: The point, though... [hansienna] by ateixeira
Dec 07, 2007 (9:09 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Dec 05, 2007 3:49 pm)

You missed the point entirely...
 
I was talking about tumbling the seats forward, not removing them.
 
The entire conversation was about how much you could haul home if you could not remove the seats.
 
It is very easy to tumble the seats forward. One knob to recline the seats, another knob to tumble them. They are spring-loaded so the process is very easy.
 
What you are left with is a cargo area that gives up a little bit of length (about a foot, I'd guess), but you give up no height at all.
 
The furniture haulding we were talking about would be no problem whatsoever.
 
I know you feel the need to chime in repeatedly about the issues you have with your seats but can you ask at least wait until an appropriate (relevant) time? I think that's fair to ask.
 
Thanks in advance.
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Re: The point, though... [ateixeira] by bobw3
Dec 07, 2007 (4:35 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 07, 2007 9:09 am)

This is the Sienna you're talking about with tumble forward 2nd row seats. Does that include if you have a 2nd row bench? How long a load could you carry inside if you don't mind taking out a tape measure.

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