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Re: Price Tracking [maryh3] by ateixeira
Nov 30, 2007 (1:53 pm)

Replying to: maryh3 (Nov 30, 2007 1:47 pm)

You bring up a valid point - some times you just need a car now.
 
One example is if you're about to end a lease, and need something to get to work the next day. Then you have less flexibility.
 
Even if you have a car now, there is the risk that something on it will break. Imagine paying several grand to rebuild a transmission while you're waiting for the rebate to increase.
 
I think $1500 is a good discount, so I can't blame you for not waiting any longer. In fact, your deal should make the people that bought theirs sooner a bit jealous.
 
Looks like right now Honda has the biggest discounts on their 07s. Then Dodge's discount on the 08s, followed by the smallest discounts on 08s from Toyota.
 
Of course, when Honda runs out of 07s, the 08s will probably have no discounts at all.
 
It's all in the timing.
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Re: Price Tracking [ateixeira] by artgpo
Nov 30, 2007 (5:48 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 30, 2007 1:53 pm)

I personally negotiated the deal on my son's 2008 Sienna XLE. The van was purchased for invoice minus holdback. The dealer was very willing to deal. I believe the 2008 Odyssey will be sold similarly.
 
A buddy of mine is a sales manager at one of the largest CLLC dealers in this area. When it came time to purchase a personal minivan he chose an Odyssey EX-L from a competing dealer nearby. He told me he would NEVER own a CLLC minivan due to all he problems and complaints experienced at that dealership. He also said anyone thinking about buying a CLLC 2008 mini in the first year had best think twice. Call it hearsay but that is what he said. My personal experience with a first year of introduction Chrysler product was a disaster and ended with Chrysler buying back the car under arbitration.
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10Best by ateixeira
Dec 03, 2007 (8:37 am)
You may not expect to see a minivan in the 10Best issue, but the quietest vehicle C&D tested in 2007 was....their Dodge minivan, at a whisper quiet 61 decibels.
 
Surprisingly that beat every luxury sedan they tested, many over $100 grand.
 
Kudos to Dodge.
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Re: 10Best [ateixeira] by thegraduate
Dec 03, 2007 (8:41 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 03, 2007 8:37 am)

That's not bad, considering they kept weight competitive with others in the class.
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Re: 10Best [thegraduate] by dennisctc
Dec 03, 2007 (11:08 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 03, 2007 8:41 am)

Most of it is due to "quiet steel" used in floor pan and fire wall. It's two sheets of steel sandwiching a noise insulator. It doesn't add much weight and you process it the same as steel panels i.e...stamping/forming it
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Re: 10Best [dennisctc] by thegraduate
Dec 03, 2007 (11:11 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Dec 03, 2007 11:08 am)

Ah, same idea Buick uses I think?
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Re: 10Best [thegraduate] by ateixeira
Dec 03, 2007 (11:15 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 03, 2007 11:11 am)

Buick calls it Quiet Tuning though it may include the same material.
 
Ford uses the stuff on the F-150 pickup as well.
 
No matter - the proof is in the pudding, and that van just embarassed every luxury car C&D tested in 2007.
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Re: 10Best [ateixeira] by thegraduate
Dec 03, 2007 (11:17 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 03, 2007 11:15 am)

I wouldn't go that far. Buicks are quiet too, but that doesn't make them better than a louder MB or Audi.
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Re: 10Best [ateixeira] by dennisctc
Dec 03, 2007 (3:34 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 03, 2007 11:15 am)

I think Buick's is accomplished with thicker laminated glass, foam in pillars and typical sound killers. Chrysler and Ford were the first users, my 2005 Dodge uses it in the floor pans for Stow N Go bins.
 
My next vehicle will be as quiet as possible. The Buick Enclave beats all CUVs on the market for noise and other areas.
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Re: Great list of things to look for in a minivan? [bobw3] by marine2
Dec 04, 2007 (6:57 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 22, 2007 12:06 pm)

to me (and just my opinion), the stowNgo and swivelNgo are 2 big gimmicks.
  
As far as the stowNgo...whenever I need to use the van for a cargo van, I take out the car seats, clean out the normal stuff that's in there, and take out the second row seats, and go off to Lowes. I can't imagine a situation where I'll have a van full of kids and stuff and then decide to pop to Lowes for some sheets of plywood. To me, it's not worth having uncomfortable seats 360 days a year just to save about a minute each to remove them.

 
Stow n go is the best thing since apple pie. Sure if your planning on going to Lowes to pick up some plywood you can plan ahead to take the seats out of your minivan, put them in the garage and put them back in when finished. But that does you little good when going to park -n- swap or garage sales and see something there you had no intention of buying when you left home, but saw it was in great condition, with a good price. There is no need to go back home to take the seats out. Your ready.
 
Then there is the storage space. Come Christmas and your going from store to store buying presents. Lift up the hinged lid and you put it in there out of sight from prying eyes, while your off to another store, knowing people don't know if there is anything of value left in your van unattended. You can't beat those conviences.
 
I just helped move my Daughter and her family to their new apartment. You have no idea of how much stuff you can get in a minivan that you can't haul in a pickup truck that easily. They have a SUV and a small bed pickup and outside of the refrigerator , mattress and box springs, I carried most of the big stuff. Dressers, chests, computer desks with high back. Televisions, book cases and etc.
 
I get so tired of those that have never had stow -n-go, talk about how uncomfortable the middle seats are. Sure if you bring them up from the stow position and just sit in them, they are uncomfortable. But if you lift up the head rests and recline the back a little, there is nothing uncomfortable about them. My Brother rode in my Sister's 2006 Dodge minivan's middle seats all the way from Ohio to Arizona and back and never complained about them being uncomfortable and your talking over 4,000 miles round trip.
 
I can't comment on swivel -n-go as mine is a 2005 and I don't have them. But I do know all about stow-n-go and they are fantastic. Unless of course, you very seldom carry anything but people, then any of them are fine. But since buying mine, my Mom needs to have an electric wheel chair or electric scooter as she can't walk that far anymore. I can get both in mine and still seat two others in my van.
 
I normally keep the middle passenger seat stowed. It gives the dog some place to sit, makes it very easy to get four others in the back and is great for loading things in that spot, that is harder to load from the rear tail gate.
 
 But if you don't need the extra storage to hide things away. Your normally only hauling people. Any of the other minivans would do very nicely. But if you use it for more than that, you just can't beat stow-n-go. It's great. See for yourself.
 
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